Are there any computational problems in groups that are harder than P?












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There are several well known classes of groups for which the word problem, conjugacy etc. are solvable in polynomial time (hyperbolic, automatic).



Then there are several classes of groups like asynchronously automatic groups for which it is known that there is an exponential time algorithm to solve the word problem (and whether this can be improved to polynomial is open and conjectured as far as I'm aware).



Going several steps further, there is an algorithm to solve the word problem in one-relator groups in time not bounded by any finite tower of exponentials (and again it is open and conjectured whether this can be improved to P).



On the other, there are algorithms to solve word problems in pathological groups like the Baumslag-Gersten group:



$$G_{(1,2)} = langle a, b | a^{a^b}= a^2 rangle$$



in polynomial time. So even though general algorithms can be very bad, it is unknown whether there are group-specific algorithms for every group in a given class that solve the word problem quickly.



So my question is, are there any groups in which it is known that the word problem (or any other computational problem) is at least exponential, but still solvable? Maybe exp-complete? What are the approaches to proving such a thing?










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    There are several well known classes of groups for which the word problem, conjugacy etc. are solvable in polynomial time (hyperbolic, automatic).



    Then there are several classes of groups like asynchronously automatic groups for which it is known that there is an exponential time algorithm to solve the word problem (and whether this can be improved to polynomial is open and conjectured as far as I'm aware).



    Going several steps further, there is an algorithm to solve the word problem in one-relator groups in time not bounded by any finite tower of exponentials (and again it is open and conjectured whether this can be improved to P).



    On the other, there are algorithms to solve word problems in pathological groups like the Baumslag-Gersten group:



    $$G_{(1,2)} = langle a, b | a^{a^b}= a^2 rangle$$



    in polynomial time. So even though general algorithms can be very bad, it is unknown whether there are group-specific algorithms for every group in a given class that solve the word problem quickly.



    So my question is, are there any groups in which it is known that the word problem (or any other computational problem) is at least exponential, but still solvable? Maybe exp-complete? What are the approaches to proving such a thing?










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      There are several well known classes of groups for which the word problem, conjugacy etc. are solvable in polynomial time (hyperbolic, automatic).



      Then there are several classes of groups like asynchronously automatic groups for which it is known that there is an exponential time algorithm to solve the word problem (and whether this can be improved to polynomial is open and conjectured as far as I'm aware).



      Going several steps further, there is an algorithm to solve the word problem in one-relator groups in time not bounded by any finite tower of exponentials (and again it is open and conjectured whether this can be improved to P).



      On the other, there are algorithms to solve word problems in pathological groups like the Baumslag-Gersten group:



      $$G_{(1,2)} = langle a, b | a^{a^b}= a^2 rangle$$



      in polynomial time. So even though general algorithms can be very bad, it is unknown whether there are group-specific algorithms for every group in a given class that solve the word problem quickly.



      So my question is, are there any groups in which it is known that the word problem (or any other computational problem) is at least exponential, but still solvable? Maybe exp-complete? What are the approaches to proving such a thing?










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      There are several well known classes of groups for which the word problem, conjugacy etc. are solvable in polynomial time (hyperbolic, automatic).



      Then there are several classes of groups like asynchronously automatic groups for which it is known that there is an exponential time algorithm to solve the word problem (and whether this can be improved to polynomial is open and conjectured as far as I'm aware).



      Going several steps further, there is an algorithm to solve the word problem in one-relator groups in time not bounded by any finite tower of exponentials (and again it is open and conjectured whether this can be improved to P).



      On the other, there are algorithms to solve word problems in pathological groups like the Baumslag-Gersten group:



      $$G_{(1,2)} = langle a, b | a^{a^b}= a^2 rangle$$



      in polynomial time. So even though general algorithms can be very bad, it is unknown whether there are group-specific algorithms for every group in a given class that solve the word problem quickly.



      So my question is, are there any groups in which it is known that the word problem (or any other computational problem) is at least exponential, but still solvable? Maybe exp-complete? What are the approaches to proving such a thing?







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          Isoperimetric and Isodiametric Functions of Groups,
          Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
          Annals of Mathematics
          Second Series, Vol. 156, No. 2 (Sep., 2002), pp. 345-466



          and



          Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
          Isoperimetric functions of groups and computational complexity of the word problem.
          Ann. of Math. (2) 156 (2002), no. 2, 467–518.



          groups with NP complete word problem are constructed and other similar results. See in particular, Corollary 1.1 of the first paper listed above.






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            @CJDennis I gave a reference to a pair of papers which are nearly 200 pages that give NP complete word problems and other related results and pointed out a particular Corollary with more detailed information. I obviously cannot give all the details of encoding S-machines etc.
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          There are finitely presented groups whose word problem is undecidable. See, for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_for_groups .






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            True, what I really meant was among the groups whose word problem is solvable. Thanks, I'll edit my question!
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            @MSL I'd expect that the same method can handle the decidable case. Instead of coding into the presentation a Turing machine whose halting problem is undecidable, code one whose halting problem is decidable but takes a very long time to decide.
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          An earlier reference for groups with this property is



          J. Avenhaus and K. Madlener. Subrekursive Komplexität der Gruppen. I. Gruppen mit vorgeschriebenen Komplexität. Acta Infomat., 9 (1): 87-104, 1977/78.



          There is a hierarchy of the recursive functions known as the (difficult to pronounce) Grzegorczyk Hierarchy $E_0 subset E_1 subset E_2 subset cdots$, where (roughly) $E_1$ contains the linearly bounded functions, $E_2$ polynomially bounded functions, and $E_3$ those functions that are bounded by iterated exponentials.



          The above paper describes constructions of finitely presented groups $G_n$ for $n ge 3$, in which solving the word problem has time complexity bounded by a function $E_n$ but not by any function in $E_{n-1}$,






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            Classical problem which is believed not to be in P is number factoring, which can be cast as computing a decomposition of a cyclic group into simple ones.



            Several problems in permutation groups are known to be as hard as graph isomorphism, thus not believed to be in P, too.



            There are also NP-hard problems known for permutation groups, see e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012365X09001289






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              Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
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            Isoperimetric and Isodiametric Functions of Groups,
            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Annals of Mathematics
            Second Series, Vol. 156, No. 2 (Sep., 2002), pp. 345-466



            and



            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Isoperimetric functions of groups and computational complexity of the word problem.
            Ann. of Math. (2) 156 (2002), no. 2, 467–518.



            groups with NP complete word problem are constructed and other similar results. See in particular, Corollary 1.1 of the first paper listed above.






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              @CJDennis I gave a reference to a pair of papers which are nearly 200 pages that give NP complete word problems and other related results and pointed out a particular Corollary with more detailed information. I obviously cannot give all the details of encoding S-machines etc.
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            More or less what Andreas says (in the comments to his answer) is true but one must be careful in the encoding. In



            Isoperimetric and Isodiametric Functions of Groups,
            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Annals of Mathematics
            Second Series, Vol. 156, No. 2 (Sep., 2002), pp. 345-466



            and



            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Isoperimetric functions of groups and computational complexity of the word problem.
            Ann. of Math. (2) 156 (2002), no. 2, 467–518.



            groups with NP complete word problem are constructed and other similar results. See in particular, Corollary 1.1 of the first paper listed above.






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              @CJDennis I gave a reference to a pair of papers which are nearly 200 pages that give NP complete word problems and other related results and pointed out a particular Corollary with more detailed information. I obviously cannot give all the details of encoding S-machines etc.
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            Isoperimetric and Isodiametric Functions of Groups,
            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Annals of Mathematics
            Second Series, Vol. 156, No. 2 (Sep., 2002), pp. 345-466



            and



            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Isoperimetric functions of groups and computational complexity of the word problem.
            Ann. of Math. (2) 156 (2002), no. 2, 467–518.



            groups with NP complete word problem are constructed and other similar results. See in particular, Corollary 1.1 of the first paper listed above.






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            More or less what Andreas says (in the comments to his answer) is true but one must be careful in the encoding. In



            Isoperimetric and Isodiametric Functions of Groups,
            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Annals of Mathematics
            Second Series, Vol. 156, No. 2 (Sep., 2002), pp. 345-466



            and



            Mark V. Sapir, Jean-Camille Birget and Eliyahu Rips
            Isoperimetric functions of groups and computational complexity of the word problem.
            Ann. of Math. (2) 156 (2002), no. 2, 467–518.



            groups with NP complete word problem are constructed and other similar results. See in particular, Corollary 1.1 of the first paper listed above.







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              @CJDennis I gave a reference to a pair of papers which are nearly 200 pages that give NP complete word problems and other related results and pointed out a particular Corollary with more detailed information. I obviously cannot give all the details of encoding S-machines etc.
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            There are finitely presented groups whose word problem is undecidable. See, for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_problem_for_groups .






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              True, what I really meant was among the groups whose word problem is solvable. Thanks, I'll edit my question!
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              @MSL I'd expect that the same method can handle the decidable case. Instead of coding into the presentation a Turing machine whose halting problem is undecidable, code one whose halting problem is decidable but takes a very long time to decide.
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            An earlier reference for groups with this property is



            J. Avenhaus and K. Madlener. Subrekursive Komplexität der Gruppen. I. Gruppen mit vorgeschriebenen Komplexität. Acta Infomat., 9 (1): 87-104, 1977/78.



            There is a hierarchy of the recursive functions known as the (difficult to pronounce) Grzegorczyk Hierarchy $E_0 subset E_1 subset E_2 subset cdots$, where (roughly) $E_1$ contains the linearly bounded functions, $E_2$ polynomially bounded functions, and $E_3$ those functions that are bounded by iterated exponentials.



            The above paper describes constructions of finitely presented groups $G_n$ for $n ge 3$, in which solving the word problem has time complexity bounded by a function $E_n$ but not by any function in $E_{n-1}$,






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              J. Avenhaus and K. Madlener. Subrekursive Komplexität der Gruppen. I. Gruppen mit vorgeschriebenen Komplexität. Acta Infomat., 9 (1): 87-104, 1977/78.



              There is a hierarchy of the recursive functions known as the (difficult to pronounce) Grzegorczyk Hierarchy $E_0 subset E_1 subset E_2 subset cdots$, where (roughly) $E_1$ contains the linearly bounded functions, $E_2$ polynomially bounded functions, and $E_3$ those functions that are bounded by iterated exponentials.



              The above paper describes constructions of finitely presented groups $G_n$ for $n ge 3$, in which solving the word problem has time complexity bounded by a function $E_n$ but not by any function in $E_{n-1}$,






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                An earlier reference for groups with this property is



                J. Avenhaus and K. Madlener. Subrekursive Komplexität der Gruppen. I. Gruppen mit vorgeschriebenen Komplexität. Acta Infomat., 9 (1): 87-104, 1977/78.



                There is a hierarchy of the recursive functions known as the (difficult to pronounce) Grzegorczyk Hierarchy $E_0 subset E_1 subset E_2 subset cdots$, where (roughly) $E_1$ contains the linearly bounded functions, $E_2$ polynomially bounded functions, and $E_3$ those functions that are bounded by iterated exponentials.



                The above paper describes constructions of finitely presented groups $G_n$ for $n ge 3$, in which solving the word problem has time complexity bounded by a function $E_n$ but not by any function in $E_{n-1}$,






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                An earlier reference for groups with this property is



                J. Avenhaus and K. Madlener. Subrekursive Komplexität der Gruppen. I. Gruppen mit vorgeschriebenen Komplexität. Acta Infomat., 9 (1): 87-104, 1977/78.



                There is a hierarchy of the recursive functions known as the (difficult to pronounce) Grzegorczyk Hierarchy $E_0 subset E_1 subset E_2 subset cdots$, where (roughly) $E_1$ contains the linearly bounded functions, $E_2$ polynomially bounded functions, and $E_3$ those functions that are bounded by iterated exponentials.



                The above paper describes constructions of finitely presented groups $G_n$ for $n ge 3$, in which solving the word problem has time complexity bounded by a function $E_n$ but not by any function in $E_{n-1}$,







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                    Classical problem which is believed not to be in P is number factoring, which can be cast as computing a decomposition of a cyclic group into simple ones.



                    Several problems in permutation groups are known to be as hard as graph isomorphism, thus not believed to be in P, too.



                    There are also NP-hard problems known for permutation groups, see e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012365X09001289






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                      Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
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                      – Benjamin Steinberg
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                      You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
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                    $begingroup$

                    Classical problem which is believed not to be in P is number factoring, which can be cast as computing a decomposition of a cyclic group into simple ones.



                    Several problems in permutation groups are known to be as hard as graph isomorphism, thus not believed to be in P, too.



                    There are also NP-hard problems known for permutation groups, see e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012365X09001289






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                    • $begingroup$
                      Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Benjamin Steinberg
                      2 hours ago










                    • $begingroup$
                      You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dima Pasechnik
                      2 hours ago














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                    $begingroup$

                    Classical problem which is believed not to be in P is number factoring, which can be cast as computing a decomposition of a cyclic group into simple ones.



                    Several problems in permutation groups are known to be as hard as graph isomorphism, thus not believed to be in P, too.



                    There are also NP-hard problems known for permutation groups, see e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012365X09001289






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                    Classical problem which is believed not to be in P is number factoring, which can be cast as computing a decomposition of a cyclic group into simple ones.



                    Several problems in permutation groups are known to be as hard as graph isomorphism, thus not believed to be in P, too.



                    There are also NP-hard problems known for permutation groups, see e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012365X09001289







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                    answered 2 hours ago









                    Dima PasechnikDima Pasechnik

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                    • $begingroup$
                      Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Benjamin Steinberg
                      2 hours ago










                    • $begingroup$
                      You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dima Pasechnik
                      2 hours ago


















                    • $begingroup$
                      Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Benjamin Steinberg
                      2 hours ago










                    • $begingroup$
                      You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Dima Pasechnik
                      2 hours ago
















                    $begingroup$
                    Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Benjamin Steinberg
                    2 hours ago




                    $begingroup$
                    Checking if a cyclic group is simple would seem to be primality testing which is in P.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Benjamin Steinberg
                    2 hours ago












                    $begingroup$
                    You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Dima Pasechnik
                    2 hours ago




                    $begingroup$
                    You are right; I have corrected my answer to reflect this.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Dima Pasechnik
                    2 hours ago










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