How to prove that at least two vertices have the same degree in any graph?
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I want to prove that at least two vertices have the same degree in any graph (with 2 or more vertices). I do have a few graphs in mind that prove this statement correct, but how would I go about proving it (or disproving it) for ALL graphs?
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I want to prove that at least two vertices have the same degree in any graph (with 2 or more vertices). I do have a few graphs in mind that prove this statement correct, but how would I go about proving it (or disproving it) for ALL graphs?
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Symmetric, simple graphs?
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I want to prove that at least two vertices have the same degree in any graph (with 2 or more vertices). I do have a few graphs in mind that prove this statement correct, but how would I go about proving it (or disproving it) for ALL graphs?
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I want to prove that at least two vertices have the same degree in any graph (with 2 or more vertices). I do have a few graphs in mind that prove this statement correct, but how would I go about proving it (or disproving it) for ALL graphs?
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I assume we're talking about finite graphs. I'm pretty sure your statement is false for infinite graphs.
Assume that a finite graph $G$ has $n$ vertices. Then each vertex has a degree between $n-1$ and $0$. But if any vertex has degree $0$, then no vertex can have degree $n-1$, so it's not possible for the degrees of the graph's vertices to include both $0$ and $n-1$. Thus, the $n$ vertices of the graph can only have $n-1$ different degrees, so by the pigeonhole principle at least two vertices must have the same degree.
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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Say graph is simple with no loops and that all vertices have different degree $d_1,d_2,...d_n$, then $${d_1,d_2,...d_n} = {0,1,2...,n-1}$$
So there is a vertex with degree $n-1$ and a vertex with degree $0$. A contradiction.
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– Shubham Johri
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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Here is a counterexample.
Let $G$ be a graph on the positive integers where there is an edge from $x$ to $y$ if $x < y le 2x$. Note that we will ignore the direction of the edges. So $2$, for example, is neighbored by $1$, $3$, and $4$.
Let $j$ and $k$ be distinct positive integers. Without loss of generality assume that $j < k$. Note that $deg(j) = j + lfloor j/2 rfloor$ and $deg(k) = k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$. We have that
$$j < k$$
$$lfloor j/2 rfloor le lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$j + lfloor j/2 rfloor < k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$deg(j) < deg(k)$$
$$deg(j) neq deg(k)$$
Therefore, no two different vertices will have the same degree. $square$
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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I assume we're talking about finite graphs. I'm pretty sure your statement is false for infinite graphs.
Assume that a finite graph $G$ has $n$ vertices. Then each vertex has a degree between $n-1$ and $0$. But if any vertex has degree $0$, then no vertex can have degree $n-1$, so it's not possible for the degrees of the graph's vertices to include both $0$ and $n-1$. Thus, the $n$ vertices of the graph can only have $n-1$ different degrees, so by the pigeonhole principle at least two vertices must have the same degree.
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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– Robert Shore
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I assume we're talking about finite graphs. I'm pretty sure your statement is false for infinite graphs.
Assume that a finite graph $G$ has $n$ vertices. Then each vertex has a degree between $n-1$ and $0$. But if any vertex has degree $0$, then no vertex can have degree $n-1$, so it's not possible for the degrees of the graph's vertices to include both $0$ and $n-1$. Thus, the $n$ vertices of the graph can only have $n-1$ different degrees, so by the pigeonhole principle at least two vertices must have the same degree.
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
5 hours ago
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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– Robert Shore
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I assume we're talking about finite graphs. I'm pretty sure your statement is false for infinite graphs.
Assume that a finite graph $G$ has $n$ vertices. Then each vertex has a degree between $n-1$ and $0$. But if any vertex has degree $0$, then no vertex can have degree $n-1$, so it's not possible for the degrees of the graph's vertices to include both $0$ and $n-1$. Thus, the $n$ vertices of the graph can only have $n-1$ different degrees, so by the pigeonhole principle at least two vertices must have the same degree.
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I assume we're talking about finite graphs. I'm pretty sure your statement is false for infinite graphs.
Assume that a finite graph $G$ has $n$ vertices. Then each vertex has a degree between $n-1$ and $0$. But if any vertex has degree $0$, then no vertex can have degree $n-1$, so it's not possible for the degrees of the graph's vertices to include both $0$ and $n-1$. Thus, the $n$ vertices of the graph can only have $n-1$ different degrees, so by the pigeonhole principle at least two vertices must have the same degree.
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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– Robert Shore
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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– Robert Shore
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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You are assuming the graph is simple?
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– Servaes
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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– Robert Shore
4 hours ago
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Yes. That is assumed in the definition of graph that I learned. I learned to call a graph with loops or multiple edges between vertices a "multigraph."
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Say graph is simple with no loops and that all vertices have different degree $d_1,d_2,...d_n$, then $${d_1,d_2,...d_n} = {0,1,2...,n-1}$$
So there is a vertex with degree $n-1$ and a vertex with degree $0$. A contradiction.
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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Say graph is simple with no loops and that all vertices have different degree $d_1,d_2,...d_n$, then $${d_1,d_2,...d_n} = {0,1,2...,n-1}$$
So there is a vertex with degree $n-1$ and a vertex with degree $0$. A contradiction.
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
9 hours ago
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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– Shufflepants
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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Say graph is simple with no loops and that all vertices have different degree $d_1,d_2,...d_n$, then $${d_1,d_2,...d_n} = {0,1,2...,n-1}$$
So there is a vertex with degree $n-1$ and a vertex with degree $0$. A contradiction.
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Say graph is simple with no loops and that all vertices have different degree $d_1,d_2,...d_n$, then $${d_1,d_2,...d_n} = {0,1,2...,n-1}$$
So there is a vertex with degree $n-1$ and a vertex with degree $0$. A contradiction.
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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– greedoid
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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– Shufflepants
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
9 hours ago
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
4 hours ago
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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– greedoid
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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– Shufflepants
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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– immibis
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
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Perhaps it would be better to include that the graph is simple?
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– Shubham Johri
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Is it necessary to specify "no loops"?
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– Shufflepants
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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– greedoid
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Of course. Take a graph with two vertices and one connected to it self. @Shufflepants
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– greedoid
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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– Shufflepants
4 hours ago
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@greedoid Then by "no loops" did you mean "no self connection"? Otherwise I'd interpret "simple with no loops" as being equivalent to a tree. But in any case, the OP didn't specify "simple" or "no loops". So, it would seem the answer to the question is: it's not provable because it's not true.
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– Shufflepants
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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– immibis
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Because I didn't see it at first: This follows because in a simple graph the degree of any vertex must be less than the number of vertices. Thus if the vertex degrees are all different and less than $n$ they must be ${0, 1, 2..., n-1}$.
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Here is a counterexample.
Let $G$ be a graph on the positive integers where there is an edge from $x$ to $y$ if $x < y le 2x$. Note that we will ignore the direction of the edges. So $2$, for example, is neighbored by $1$, $3$, and $4$.
Let $j$ and $k$ be distinct positive integers. Without loss of generality assume that $j < k$. Note that $deg(j) = j + lfloor j/2 rfloor$ and $deg(k) = k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$. We have that
$$j < k$$
$$lfloor j/2 rfloor le lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$j + lfloor j/2 rfloor < k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$deg(j) < deg(k)$$
$$deg(j) neq deg(k)$$
Therefore, no two different vertices will have the same degree. $square$
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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Here is a counterexample.
Let $G$ be a graph on the positive integers where there is an edge from $x$ to $y$ if $x < y le 2x$. Note that we will ignore the direction of the edges. So $2$, for example, is neighbored by $1$, $3$, and $4$.
Let $j$ and $k$ be distinct positive integers. Without loss of generality assume that $j < k$. Note that $deg(j) = j + lfloor j/2 rfloor$ and $deg(k) = k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$. We have that
$$j < k$$
$$lfloor j/2 rfloor le lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$j + lfloor j/2 rfloor < k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$deg(j) < deg(k)$$
$$deg(j) neq deg(k)$$
Therefore, no two different vertices will have the same degree. $square$
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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– ruakh
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Here is a counterexample.
Let $G$ be a graph on the positive integers where there is an edge from $x$ to $y$ if $x < y le 2x$. Note that we will ignore the direction of the edges. So $2$, for example, is neighbored by $1$, $3$, and $4$.
Let $j$ and $k$ be distinct positive integers. Without loss of generality assume that $j < k$. Note that $deg(j) = j + lfloor j/2 rfloor$ and $deg(k) = k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$. We have that
$$j < k$$
$$lfloor j/2 rfloor le lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$j + lfloor j/2 rfloor < k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$deg(j) < deg(k)$$
$$deg(j) neq deg(k)$$
Therefore, no two different vertices will have the same degree. $square$
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Here is a counterexample.
Let $G$ be a graph on the positive integers where there is an edge from $x$ to $y$ if $x < y le 2x$. Note that we will ignore the direction of the edges. So $2$, for example, is neighbored by $1$, $3$, and $4$.
Let $j$ and $k$ be distinct positive integers. Without loss of generality assume that $j < k$. Note that $deg(j) = j + lfloor j/2 rfloor$ and $deg(k) = k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$. We have that
$$j < k$$
$$lfloor j/2 rfloor le lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$j + lfloor j/2 rfloor < k + lfloor k/2 rfloor$$
$$deg(j) < deg(k)$$
$$deg(j) neq deg(k)$$
Therefore, no two different vertices will have the same degree. $square$
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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– ruakh
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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– ruakh
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As noted at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory#Definitions, "V and E are usually taken to be finite, and many of the well-known results are not true (or are rather different) for infinite graphs because many of the arguments fail in the infinite case."
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Symmetric, simple graphs?
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Possible duplicate of "In a party people shake hands with one another"
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Possible duplicate of If n is a natural number ≥2 how do I prove that any graph with n vertices has at least two vertices of the same degree?
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