Upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, indicator-multiload doesn't work












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I'm rather glad of the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 (desktop).

However there are a few things I find annoying,



Among them is indicator-multiload



indicator-multiload is an invaluable app, graphically showing activity for
CPU, memory, network, disk... Looking like that (top bar) in 16.04
enter image description here



Unfortunately it doesn't work (well) in 18.04.



How can I get indicator-multiload to work in 18.04?










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  • 4





    You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

    – N0rbert
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:06






  • 1





    Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:42






  • 2





    Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:35








  • 3





    This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

    – pomsky
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:39






  • 2





    @pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 18:50
















6















I'm rather glad of the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 (desktop).

However there are a few things I find annoying,



Among them is indicator-multiload



indicator-multiload is an invaluable app, graphically showing activity for
CPU, memory, network, disk... Looking like that (top bar) in 16.04
enter image description here



Unfortunately it doesn't work (well) in 18.04.



How can I get indicator-multiload to work in 18.04?










share|improve this question




















  • 4





    You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

    – N0rbert
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:06






  • 1





    Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:42






  • 2





    Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:35








  • 3





    This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

    – pomsky
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:39






  • 2





    @pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 18:50














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I'm rather glad of the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 (desktop).

However there are a few things I find annoying,



Among them is indicator-multiload



indicator-multiload is an invaluable app, graphically showing activity for
CPU, memory, network, disk... Looking like that (top bar) in 16.04
enter image description here



Unfortunately it doesn't work (well) in 18.04.



How can I get indicator-multiload to work in 18.04?










share|improve this question
















I'm rather glad of the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 (desktop).

However there are a few things I find annoying,



Among them is indicator-multiload



indicator-multiload is an invaluable app, graphically showing activity for
CPU, memory, network, disk... Looking like that (top bar) in 16.04
enter image description here



Unfortunately it doesn't work (well) in 18.04.



How can I get indicator-multiload to work in 18.04?







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  • 4





    You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

    – N0rbert
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:06






  • 1





    Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:42






  • 2





    Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:35








  • 3





    This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

    – pomsky
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:39






  • 2





    @pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 18:50














  • 4





    You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

    – N0rbert
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:06






  • 1





    Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 8:42






  • 2





    Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:35








  • 3





    This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

    – pomsky
    Aug 22 '18 at 12:39






  • 2





    @pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

    – Ring Ø
    Aug 22 '18 at 18:50








4




4





You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

– N0rbert
Aug 22 '18 at 8:06





You can always drop GNOME Shell and install Unity instead (ubuntu-unity-desktop package) or switch to MATE DE (ubuntu-mate-desktop package) to get normal traditional desktop.

– N0rbert
Aug 22 '18 at 8:06




1




1





Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 8:42





Thanks, that's an idea. However, I'd like to try (for once!) to go with the default desktop (to ease next upgrades).

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 8:42




2




2





Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 12:35







Edited per comments. The other question is upgrade-from-16-04-to-18-04-iphone-connectivity

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 12:35






3




3





This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

– pomsky
Aug 22 '18 at 12:39





This should work for you: How to show memory usage information in top bar or as norification?

– pomsky
Aug 22 '18 at 12:39




2




2





@pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 18:50





@pomsky Indeed! Great app thanks!

– Ring Ø
Aug 22 '18 at 18:50










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Let me write some history first and then i will fix the extension and share the procedure to be installed in Ubuntu 18.04, to be possible used it with the indicator-multiload. The history will explaint you why the extension don't support rigth now the indicator-multiload and will add some sence to write an answer to a thing that really only exist because you ask about it.



Ubuntu 18.04 now use gnome shell instead of the Unity desktop like probably you already know. They are different desktops, but in general there are not limitations to use the same feature of Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity in Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome Shell.



The same thing can be more easy or more hard to do in one or in the another desktop. This things you want, can be integrate better or worse with the rest of the shell to look like more or less pretty, or will work with worse or better performace, but finally it can be implemented in both desktops environments. A different history will not be true in general and need to be proven to then be taked as a true. Thats why i recommend be obtimistic. When something have not support, is not because a desktop is called X or Y, is because the developers behind the desktop are called X or Y. So, will be always a human factor and not a desktop name.



The case of the indicator-multiload is not different then and of course, it will work just fine with Gnome Shell. The problem was that the Gnome Shell developers, dosen' t likes the indicators, because this feature aparently do not match with his conception of the desktop. Source: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652122



Not matter if the shell developers deside to not support the indicators, because they really support extensions and then some thrid party developers can make possible the usage of the indicators inside the Gnome Shell session and thats what then happened
when Jonas Kümmerlin create that extension: https://github.com/rgcjonas



When Ubuntu come to Gnome Shell in 18.04, the develop of the extension to loaded the indicators was not very active and was develop, preventing break the shell as possible, to cause few disturbs. So, it was limited a lot and some things was simplify in theory maybe, to be more faster and cause less problems.



So, the non-homogeneus indicators was then be loaded in a way that they will be converted to homogeneous indicators and then simplify the procedure to scale the icons inside panel. That was what the official shell code was doing in this time with the status icons. Please also see that the status icons was then be dropped for inside Gnome Shell: https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ a few years ago, because the gnome shell developers droped his usage in favour of NOTHING and then do not considered the usage of the indicators again.



Also, some time ago, i found (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/41) this gnome shell extension. I forked and convert it to a Cinnamon applet and then I merged it with another Cinnamon oficial applet for the status icons. That code is inside Cinnamon right now (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/5790). In Cinnamon, the history was different, and i tested a lot, the possible ways to render the indicators and also i fix some bugs that the original extension already have, because the extension never was used with non homogeneus indicators. As an intresting thing, I can say that I never merged some of that improves in the Cinnamon desktop. Thats why in the cinnamon desktop the indicator-multiload is also homogeneus like it's in Ubuntu 18.04 right now.



When Ubuntu 18.04 was forked the indicator extension, i opened a bug there (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/92), to see if they want to fix something in the extension, but for what i see, they don't care to do so much. So, today i just forked the extension and fix the indicator-multiload only, because you want that, but don't think i will continue the develop of that extension or something similar. I think you need to ask to the ubuntu developers about that feature. Probably here: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/121



Finally i make the fork just to answer this issue and this is the procedure to install that fork (please see the commands are not really tested and are just a help):





  1. Backup the official ubuntu extension:



    sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com-bak


  2. Download the fork: https://github.com/lestcape/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/archive/indicator-multiload.zip



  3. Create a folder in the shell extension home directory:



    mkdir ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`



  4. unzip the archive gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip in a temp folder:



    unzip gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip -d temp



  5. Copy the content of the temp folder (inside gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload) to the shell extension home directory:



    cp -r temp ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`


  6. Restart the shell (Press Alt+F2 then press r and then press enter).


  7. Open the gnome tweek tool and eneable the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support.



  8. Install the indicator multiload package:



    sudo apt install indicator-multiload


  9. Finally Launch the indicator-multiload and you will see it as a normal indicator.



Please note, the resulting extension change keep the same licence of the original. :)






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  • Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

    – colan
    Sep 4 '18 at 19:11








  • 2





    @colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

    – lestcape
    Sep 5 '18 at 16:09











  • Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

    – Elder Geek
    Sep 18 '18 at 19:22






  • 1





    DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

    – Alfonso Nishikawa
    Oct 2 '18 at 9:49






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    @Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

    – lestcape
    Oct 2 '18 at 17:29











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Let me write some history first and then i will fix the extension and share the procedure to be installed in Ubuntu 18.04, to be possible used it with the indicator-multiload. The history will explaint you why the extension don't support rigth now the indicator-multiload and will add some sence to write an answer to a thing that really only exist because you ask about it.



Ubuntu 18.04 now use gnome shell instead of the Unity desktop like probably you already know. They are different desktops, but in general there are not limitations to use the same feature of Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity in Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome Shell.



The same thing can be more easy or more hard to do in one or in the another desktop. This things you want, can be integrate better or worse with the rest of the shell to look like more or less pretty, or will work with worse or better performace, but finally it can be implemented in both desktops environments. A different history will not be true in general and need to be proven to then be taked as a true. Thats why i recommend be obtimistic. When something have not support, is not because a desktop is called X or Y, is because the developers behind the desktop are called X or Y. So, will be always a human factor and not a desktop name.



The case of the indicator-multiload is not different then and of course, it will work just fine with Gnome Shell. The problem was that the Gnome Shell developers, dosen' t likes the indicators, because this feature aparently do not match with his conception of the desktop. Source: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652122



Not matter if the shell developers deside to not support the indicators, because they really support extensions and then some thrid party developers can make possible the usage of the indicators inside the Gnome Shell session and thats what then happened
when Jonas Kümmerlin create that extension: https://github.com/rgcjonas



When Ubuntu come to Gnome Shell in 18.04, the develop of the extension to loaded the indicators was not very active and was develop, preventing break the shell as possible, to cause few disturbs. So, it was limited a lot and some things was simplify in theory maybe, to be more faster and cause less problems.



So, the non-homogeneus indicators was then be loaded in a way that they will be converted to homogeneous indicators and then simplify the procedure to scale the icons inside panel. That was what the official shell code was doing in this time with the status icons. Please also see that the status icons was then be dropped for inside Gnome Shell: https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ a few years ago, because the gnome shell developers droped his usage in favour of NOTHING and then do not considered the usage of the indicators again.



Also, some time ago, i found (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/41) this gnome shell extension. I forked and convert it to a Cinnamon applet and then I merged it with another Cinnamon oficial applet for the status icons. That code is inside Cinnamon right now (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/5790). In Cinnamon, the history was different, and i tested a lot, the possible ways to render the indicators and also i fix some bugs that the original extension already have, because the extension never was used with non homogeneus indicators. As an intresting thing, I can say that I never merged some of that improves in the Cinnamon desktop. Thats why in the cinnamon desktop the indicator-multiload is also homogeneus like it's in Ubuntu 18.04 right now.



When Ubuntu 18.04 was forked the indicator extension, i opened a bug there (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/92), to see if they want to fix something in the extension, but for what i see, they don't care to do so much. So, today i just forked the extension and fix the indicator-multiload only, because you want that, but don't think i will continue the develop of that extension or something similar. I think you need to ask to the ubuntu developers about that feature. Probably here: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/121



Finally i make the fork just to answer this issue and this is the procedure to install that fork (please see the commands are not really tested and are just a help):





  1. Backup the official ubuntu extension:



    sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com-bak


  2. Download the fork: https://github.com/lestcape/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/archive/indicator-multiload.zip



  3. Create a folder in the shell extension home directory:



    mkdir ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`



  4. unzip the archive gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip in a temp folder:



    unzip gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip -d temp



  5. Copy the content of the temp folder (inside gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload) to the shell extension home directory:



    cp -r temp ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`


  6. Restart the shell (Press Alt+F2 then press r and then press enter).


  7. Open the gnome tweek tool and eneable the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support.



  8. Install the indicator multiload package:



    sudo apt install indicator-multiload


  9. Finally Launch the indicator-multiload and you will see it as a normal indicator.



Please note, the resulting extension change keep the same licence of the original. :)






share|improve this answer


























  • Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

    – colan
    Sep 4 '18 at 19:11








  • 2





    @colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

    – lestcape
    Sep 5 '18 at 16:09











  • Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

    – Elder Geek
    Sep 18 '18 at 19:22






  • 1





    DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

    – Alfonso Nishikawa
    Oct 2 '18 at 9:49






  • 1





    @Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

    – lestcape
    Oct 2 '18 at 17:29
















4














Let me write some history first and then i will fix the extension and share the procedure to be installed in Ubuntu 18.04, to be possible used it with the indicator-multiload. The history will explaint you why the extension don't support rigth now the indicator-multiload and will add some sence to write an answer to a thing that really only exist because you ask about it.



Ubuntu 18.04 now use gnome shell instead of the Unity desktop like probably you already know. They are different desktops, but in general there are not limitations to use the same feature of Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity in Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome Shell.



The same thing can be more easy or more hard to do in one or in the another desktop. This things you want, can be integrate better or worse with the rest of the shell to look like more or less pretty, or will work with worse or better performace, but finally it can be implemented in both desktops environments. A different history will not be true in general and need to be proven to then be taked as a true. Thats why i recommend be obtimistic. When something have not support, is not because a desktop is called X or Y, is because the developers behind the desktop are called X or Y. So, will be always a human factor and not a desktop name.



The case of the indicator-multiload is not different then and of course, it will work just fine with Gnome Shell. The problem was that the Gnome Shell developers, dosen' t likes the indicators, because this feature aparently do not match with his conception of the desktop. Source: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652122



Not matter if the shell developers deside to not support the indicators, because they really support extensions and then some thrid party developers can make possible the usage of the indicators inside the Gnome Shell session and thats what then happened
when Jonas Kümmerlin create that extension: https://github.com/rgcjonas



When Ubuntu come to Gnome Shell in 18.04, the develop of the extension to loaded the indicators was not very active and was develop, preventing break the shell as possible, to cause few disturbs. So, it was limited a lot and some things was simplify in theory maybe, to be more faster and cause less problems.



So, the non-homogeneus indicators was then be loaded in a way that they will be converted to homogeneous indicators and then simplify the procedure to scale the icons inside panel. That was what the official shell code was doing in this time with the status icons. Please also see that the status icons was then be dropped for inside Gnome Shell: https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ a few years ago, because the gnome shell developers droped his usage in favour of NOTHING and then do not considered the usage of the indicators again.



Also, some time ago, i found (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/41) this gnome shell extension. I forked and convert it to a Cinnamon applet and then I merged it with another Cinnamon oficial applet for the status icons. That code is inside Cinnamon right now (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/5790). In Cinnamon, the history was different, and i tested a lot, the possible ways to render the indicators and also i fix some bugs that the original extension already have, because the extension never was used with non homogeneus indicators. As an intresting thing, I can say that I never merged some of that improves in the Cinnamon desktop. Thats why in the cinnamon desktop the indicator-multiload is also homogeneus like it's in Ubuntu 18.04 right now.



When Ubuntu 18.04 was forked the indicator extension, i opened a bug there (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/92), to see if they want to fix something in the extension, but for what i see, they don't care to do so much. So, today i just forked the extension and fix the indicator-multiload only, because you want that, but don't think i will continue the develop of that extension or something similar. I think you need to ask to the ubuntu developers about that feature. Probably here: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/121



Finally i make the fork just to answer this issue and this is the procedure to install that fork (please see the commands are not really tested and are just a help):





  1. Backup the official ubuntu extension:



    sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com-bak


  2. Download the fork: https://github.com/lestcape/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/archive/indicator-multiload.zip



  3. Create a folder in the shell extension home directory:



    mkdir ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`



  4. unzip the archive gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip in a temp folder:



    unzip gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip -d temp



  5. Copy the content of the temp folder (inside gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload) to the shell extension home directory:



    cp -r temp ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`


  6. Restart the shell (Press Alt+F2 then press r and then press enter).


  7. Open the gnome tweek tool and eneable the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support.



  8. Install the indicator multiload package:



    sudo apt install indicator-multiload


  9. Finally Launch the indicator-multiload and you will see it as a normal indicator.



Please note, the resulting extension change keep the same licence of the original. :)






share|improve this answer


























  • Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

    – colan
    Sep 4 '18 at 19:11








  • 2





    @colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

    – lestcape
    Sep 5 '18 at 16:09











  • Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

    – Elder Geek
    Sep 18 '18 at 19:22






  • 1





    DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

    – Alfonso Nishikawa
    Oct 2 '18 at 9:49






  • 1





    @Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

    – lestcape
    Oct 2 '18 at 17:29














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Let me write some history first and then i will fix the extension and share the procedure to be installed in Ubuntu 18.04, to be possible used it with the indicator-multiload. The history will explaint you why the extension don't support rigth now the indicator-multiload and will add some sence to write an answer to a thing that really only exist because you ask about it.



Ubuntu 18.04 now use gnome shell instead of the Unity desktop like probably you already know. They are different desktops, but in general there are not limitations to use the same feature of Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity in Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome Shell.



The same thing can be more easy or more hard to do in one or in the another desktop. This things you want, can be integrate better or worse with the rest of the shell to look like more or less pretty, or will work with worse or better performace, but finally it can be implemented in both desktops environments. A different history will not be true in general and need to be proven to then be taked as a true. Thats why i recommend be obtimistic. When something have not support, is not because a desktop is called X or Y, is because the developers behind the desktop are called X or Y. So, will be always a human factor and not a desktop name.



The case of the indicator-multiload is not different then and of course, it will work just fine with Gnome Shell. The problem was that the Gnome Shell developers, dosen' t likes the indicators, because this feature aparently do not match with his conception of the desktop. Source: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652122



Not matter if the shell developers deside to not support the indicators, because they really support extensions and then some thrid party developers can make possible the usage of the indicators inside the Gnome Shell session and thats what then happened
when Jonas Kümmerlin create that extension: https://github.com/rgcjonas



When Ubuntu come to Gnome Shell in 18.04, the develop of the extension to loaded the indicators was not very active and was develop, preventing break the shell as possible, to cause few disturbs. So, it was limited a lot and some things was simplify in theory maybe, to be more faster and cause less problems.



So, the non-homogeneus indicators was then be loaded in a way that they will be converted to homogeneous indicators and then simplify the procedure to scale the icons inside panel. That was what the official shell code was doing in this time with the status icons. Please also see that the status icons was then be dropped for inside Gnome Shell: https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ a few years ago, because the gnome shell developers droped his usage in favour of NOTHING and then do not considered the usage of the indicators again.



Also, some time ago, i found (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/41) this gnome shell extension. I forked and convert it to a Cinnamon applet and then I merged it with another Cinnamon oficial applet for the status icons. That code is inside Cinnamon right now (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/5790). In Cinnamon, the history was different, and i tested a lot, the possible ways to render the indicators and also i fix some bugs that the original extension already have, because the extension never was used with non homogeneus indicators. As an intresting thing, I can say that I never merged some of that improves in the Cinnamon desktop. Thats why in the cinnamon desktop the indicator-multiload is also homogeneus like it's in Ubuntu 18.04 right now.



When Ubuntu 18.04 was forked the indicator extension, i opened a bug there (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/92), to see if they want to fix something in the extension, but for what i see, they don't care to do so much. So, today i just forked the extension and fix the indicator-multiload only, because you want that, but don't think i will continue the develop of that extension or something similar. I think you need to ask to the ubuntu developers about that feature. Probably here: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/121



Finally i make the fork just to answer this issue and this is the procedure to install that fork (please see the commands are not really tested and are just a help):





  1. Backup the official ubuntu extension:



    sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com-bak


  2. Download the fork: https://github.com/lestcape/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/archive/indicator-multiload.zip



  3. Create a folder in the shell extension home directory:



    mkdir ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`



  4. unzip the archive gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip in a temp folder:



    unzip gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip -d temp



  5. Copy the content of the temp folder (inside gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload) to the shell extension home directory:



    cp -r temp ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`


  6. Restart the shell (Press Alt+F2 then press r and then press enter).


  7. Open the gnome tweek tool and eneable the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support.



  8. Install the indicator multiload package:



    sudo apt install indicator-multiload


  9. Finally Launch the indicator-multiload and you will see it as a normal indicator.



Please note, the resulting extension change keep the same licence of the original. :)






share|improve this answer















Let me write some history first and then i will fix the extension and share the procedure to be installed in Ubuntu 18.04, to be possible used it with the indicator-multiload. The history will explaint you why the extension don't support rigth now the indicator-multiload and will add some sence to write an answer to a thing that really only exist because you ask about it.



Ubuntu 18.04 now use gnome shell instead of the Unity desktop like probably you already know. They are different desktops, but in general there are not limitations to use the same feature of Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity in Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome Shell.



The same thing can be more easy or more hard to do in one or in the another desktop. This things you want, can be integrate better or worse with the rest of the shell to look like more or less pretty, or will work with worse or better performace, but finally it can be implemented in both desktops environments. A different history will not be true in general and need to be proven to then be taked as a true. Thats why i recommend be obtimistic. When something have not support, is not because a desktop is called X or Y, is because the developers behind the desktop are called X or Y. So, will be always a human factor and not a desktop name.



The case of the indicator-multiload is not different then and of course, it will work just fine with Gnome Shell. The problem was that the Gnome Shell developers, dosen' t likes the indicators, because this feature aparently do not match with his conception of the desktop. Source: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652122



Not matter if the shell developers deside to not support the indicators, because they really support extensions and then some thrid party developers can make possible the usage of the indicators inside the Gnome Shell session and thats what then happened
when Jonas Kümmerlin create that extension: https://github.com/rgcjonas



When Ubuntu come to Gnome Shell in 18.04, the develop of the extension to loaded the indicators was not very active and was develop, preventing break the shell as possible, to cause few disturbs. So, it was limited a lot and some things was simplify in theory maybe, to be more faster and cause less problems.



So, the non-homogeneus indicators was then be loaded in a way that they will be converted to homogeneous indicators and then simplify the procedure to scale the icons inside panel. That was what the official shell code was doing in this time with the status icons. Please also see that the status icons was then be dropped for inside Gnome Shell: https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ a few years ago, because the gnome shell developers droped his usage in favour of NOTHING and then do not considered the usage of the indicators again.



Also, some time ago, i found (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/41) this gnome shell extension. I forked and convert it to a Cinnamon applet and then I merged it with another Cinnamon oficial applet for the status icons. That code is inside Cinnamon right now (https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/pull/5790). In Cinnamon, the history was different, and i tested a lot, the possible ways to render the indicators and also i fix some bugs that the original extension already have, because the extension never was used with non homogeneus indicators. As an intresting thing, I can say that I never merged some of that improves in the Cinnamon desktop. Thats why in the cinnamon desktop the indicator-multiload is also homogeneus like it's in Ubuntu 18.04 right now.



When Ubuntu 18.04 was forked the indicator extension, i opened a bug there (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/92), to see if they want to fix something in the extension, but for what i see, they don't care to do so much. So, today i just forked the extension and fix the indicator-multiload only, because you want that, but don't think i will continue the develop of that extension or something similar. I think you need to ask to the ubuntu developers about that feature. Probably here: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/121



Finally i make the fork just to answer this issue and this is the procedure to install that fork (please see the commands are not really tested and are just a help):





  1. Backup the official ubuntu extension:



    sudo mv /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com-bak


  2. Download the fork: https://github.com/lestcape/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/archive/indicator-multiload.zip



  3. Create a folder in the shell extension home directory:



    mkdir ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`



  4. unzip the archive gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip in a temp folder:



    unzip gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload.zip -d temp



  5. Copy the content of the temp folder (inside gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-indicator-multiload) to the shell extension home directory:



    cp -r temp ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/appindicatorsupport@rgcjonas.gmail.com`


  6. Restart the shell (Press Alt+F2 then press r and then press enter).


  7. Open the gnome tweek tool and eneable the KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support.



  8. Install the indicator multiload package:



    sudo apt install indicator-multiload


  9. Finally Launch the indicator-multiload and you will see it as a normal indicator.



Please note, the resulting extension change keep the same licence of the original. :)







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  • Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

    – colan
    Sep 4 '18 at 19:11








  • 2





    @colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

    – lestcape
    Sep 5 '18 at 16:09











  • Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

    – Elder Geek
    Sep 18 '18 at 19:22






  • 1





    DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

    – Alfonso Nishikawa
    Oct 2 '18 at 9:49






  • 1





    @Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

    – lestcape
    Oct 2 '18 at 17:29



















  • Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

    – colan
    Sep 4 '18 at 19:11








  • 2





    @colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

    – lestcape
    Sep 5 '18 at 16:09











  • Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

    – Elder Geek
    Sep 18 '18 at 19:22






  • 1





    DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

    – Alfonso Nishikawa
    Oct 2 '18 at 9:49






  • 1





    @Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

    – lestcape
    Oct 2 '18 at 17:29

















Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

– colan
Sep 4 '18 at 19:11







Sounds great; thanks for the information, but a bunch of us have already switched to another app that's been working for a while. See askubuntu.com/questions/968641/… for details. When the above gets in, are there benefits to switching back?

– colan
Sep 4 '18 at 19:11






2




2





@colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

– lestcape
Sep 5 '18 at 16:09





@colan Because what you mention is only an specific applet that can be used only to monitor things, while this solution involved a fix for a general extension that allow a lot of types of indicators and not just a hardware monitor. This is an attemp to reused a lot of works, not an attempt to make a new one. For the another hand, indicators are a general concepts that can be used in a lot of desktops, while a gnome shell extension is only for a gnome desktop.

– lestcape
Sep 5 '18 at 16:09













Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

– Elder Geek
Sep 18 '18 at 19:22





Perhaps I'll reinstall gnome-shell and gdm and try this approach. I'd already taken the path of least resistance and canned gnome in favor of unity as @n0rbert suggested here before I found this Q & A.. IMHO the whole Gnome/Wayland push was a bit of a fiasco.

– Elder Geek
Sep 18 '18 at 19:22




1




1





DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

– Alfonso Nishikawa
Oct 2 '18 at 9:49





DO NOT USE THIS SOLUTION, IT IS OUTDATED. And maybe your desktop will crash like mine :(

– Alfonso Nishikawa
Oct 2 '18 at 9:49




1




1





@Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

– lestcape
Oct 2 '18 at 17:29





@Alfonso Nishikawa github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/pull/144

– lestcape
Oct 2 '18 at 17:29


















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