Do USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 cables exist?
I’m purchasing a 2017 MacBook Pro and plan to use my old Mid-2011 iMac as a monitor in Target Display Mode.
I’ve discovered I need a USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 connection to make this work, but I’m having some difficulty finding a cable that works. I tried a USB-C to Mini-Display Port (using my work laptop, same as I’m ordering) without success.
Does such a cable exist?
I’ve seen male USB-C to female Thunderbolt 2 adapters that would require a male to male Thunderbolt cable, but they’re pricey and I’d like some confirmation that they work before I purchase one.
Can anyone confirm that this setup would work please?
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I’m purchasing a 2017 MacBook Pro and plan to use my old Mid-2011 iMac as a monitor in Target Display Mode.
I’ve discovered I need a USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 connection to make this work, but I’m having some difficulty finding a cable that works. I tried a USB-C to Mini-Display Port (using my work laptop, same as I’m ordering) without success.
Does such a cable exist?
I’ve seen male USB-C to female Thunderbolt 2 adapters that would require a male to male Thunderbolt cable, but they’re pricey and I’d like some confirmation that they work before I purchase one.
Can anyone confirm that this setup would work please?
macbook imac target-display
add a comment |
I’m purchasing a 2017 MacBook Pro and plan to use my old Mid-2011 iMac as a monitor in Target Display Mode.
I’ve discovered I need a USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 connection to make this work, but I’m having some difficulty finding a cable that works. I tried a USB-C to Mini-Display Port (using my work laptop, same as I’m ordering) without success.
Does such a cable exist?
I’ve seen male USB-C to female Thunderbolt 2 adapters that would require a male to male Thunderbolt cable, but they’re pricey and I’d like some confirmation that they work before I purchase one.
Can anyone confirm that this setup would work please?
macbook imac target-display
I’m purchasing a 2017 MacBook Pro and plan to use my old Mid-2011 iMac as a monitor in Target Display Mode.
I’ve discovered I need a USB-C to Thunderbolt 2 connection to make this work, but I’m having some difficulty finding a cable that works. I tried a USB-C to Mini-Display Port (using my work laptop, same as I’m ordering) without success.
Does such a cable exist?
I’ve seen male USB-C to female Thunderbolt 2 adapters that would require a male to male Thunderbolt cable, but they’re pricey and I’d like some confirmation that they work before I purchase one.
Can anyone confirm that this setup would work please?
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You're not going to find a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable as an adapter is required to connect to legacy devices.
One of the (major) differentiators between Thunderbolt 1/2 and Thunderbolt 3 is that Thunderbolt 1/2 required the cable to be active (it required power to operate) whereas Thunderbolt 3 can use standard USB Type C cables (it's passive)1.
With these older Thunderbolt standards, the cable was active, meaning
the cable itself is a device that requires power to operate (which is
why most Thunderbolt 1 or 2 devices would require an external power
source in order to function.)
Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible, but will require an adapter.2
From the FAQ:
Is Thunderbolt 3 backwards compatible with Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2?
Yes, solutions and products built to Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 specifications will work with Thunderbolt 3 via an adapter.
(emphasis mine)
To make your setup work, something like the StarTech TBT3TBTADAP TB 3 to Legacy TB adapter.
I've personally used this adapter to connect a 2018 MacBook Pro to a legacy (Thunderbolt 1) WD MyBook Duo and it worked with no issues.
Note
This kind of adapter is only compatible with Thunderbolt devices, not Mini DisplayPort.
1C|Net: USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all
2Thunderbolt Technology Frequently Asked Questions
2
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
|
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I don't think a straight-up cable exists, no. However, you can get an adapter/dongle that works perfectly well for your scenario. You'll need to Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter:
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter
You can read more about the adapter here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266
Note that Target Display Mode is not using the same kind of signal as mini-DisplayPort - therefore a USB-C to mini-DisplayPort cable will not work! It needs to be an actual Thunderbolt 2 source.
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
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You're not going to find a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable as an adapter is required to connect to legacy devices.
One of the (major) differentiators between Thunderbolt 1/2 and Thunderbolt 3 is that Thunderbolt 1/2 required the cable to be active (it required power to operate) whereas Thunderbolt 3 can use standard USB Type C cables (it's passive)1.
With these older Thunderbolt standards, the cable was active, meaning
the cable itself is a device that requires power to operate (which is
why most Thunderbolt 1 or 2 devices would require an external power
source in order to function.)
Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible, but will require an adapter.2
From the FAQ:
Is Thunderbolt 3 backwards compatible with Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2?
Yes, solutions and products built to Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 specifications will work with Thunderbolt 3 via an adapter.
(emphasis mine)
To make your setup work, something like the StarTech TBT3TBTADAP TB 3 to Legacy TB adapter.
I've personally used this adapter to connect a 2018 MacBook Pro to a legacy (Thunderbolt 1) WD MyBook Duo and it worked with no issues.
Note
This kind of adapter is only compatible with Thunderbolt devices, not Mini DisplayPort.
1C|Net: USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all
2Thunderbolt Technology Frequently Asked Questions
2
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
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You're not going to find a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable as an adapter is required to connect to legacy devices.
One of the (major) differentiators between Thunderbolt 1/2 and Thunderbolt 3 is that Thunderbolt 1/2 required the cable to be active (it required power to operate) whereas Thunderbolt 3 can use standard USB Type C cables (it's passive)1.
With these older Thunderbolt standards, the cable was active, meaning
the cable itself is a device that requires power to operate (which is
why most Thunderbolt 1 or 2 devices would require an external power
source in order to function.)
Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible, but will require an adapter.2
From the FAQ:
Is Thunderbolt 3 backwards compatible with Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2?
Yes, solutions and products built to Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 specifications will work with Thunderbolt 3 via an adapter.
(emphasis mine)
To make your setup work, something like the StarTech TBT3TBTADAP TB 3 to Legacy TB adapter.
I've personally used this adapter to connect a 2018 MacBook Pro to a legacy (Thunderbolt 1) WD MyBook Duo and it worked with no issues.
Note
This kind of adapter is only compatible with Thunderbolt devices, not Mini DisplayPort.
1C|Net: USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all
2Thunderbolt Technology Frequently Asked Questions
2
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
|
show 1 more comment
You're not going to find a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable as an adapter is required to connect to legacy devices.
One of the (major) differentiators between Thunderbolt 1/2 and Thunderbolt 3 is that Thunderbolt 1/2 required the cable to be active (it required power to operate) whereas Thunderbolt 3 can use standard USB Type C cables (it's passive)1.
With these older Thunderbolt standards, the cable was active, meaning
the cable itself is a device that requires power to operate (which is
why most Thunderbolt 1 or 2 devices would require an external power
source in order to function.)
Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible, but will require an adapter.2
From the FAQ:
Is Thunderbolt 3 backwards compatible with Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2?
Yes, solutions and products built to Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 specifications will work with Thunderbolt 3 via an adapter.
(emphasis mine)
To make your setup work, something like the StarTech TBT3TBTADAP TB 3 to Legacy TB adapter.
I've personally used this adapter to connect a 2018 MacBook Pro to a legacy (Thunderbolt 1) WD MyBook Duo and it worked with no issues.
Note
This kind of adapter is only compatible with Thunderbolt devices, not Mini DisplayPort.
1C|Net: USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all
2Thunderbolt Technology Frequently Asked Questions
You're not going to find a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable as an adapter is required to connect to legacy devices.
One of the (major) differentiators between Thunderbolt 1/2 and Thunderbolt 3 is that Thunderbolt 1/2 required the cable to be active (it required power to operate) whereas Thunderbolt 3 can use standard USB Type C cables (it's passive)1.
With these older Thunderbolt standards, the cable was active, meaning
the cable itself is a device that requires power to operate (which is
why most Thunderbolt 1 or 2 devices would require an external power
source in order to function.)
Thunderbolt 3 is backward compatible, but will require an adapter.2
From the FAQ:
Is Thunderbolt 3 backwards compatible with Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2?
Yes, solutions and products built to Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 specifications will work with Thunderbolt 3 via an adapter.
(emphasis mine)
To make your setup work, something like the StarTech TBT3TBTADAP TB 3 to Legacy TB adapter.
I've personally used this adapter to connect a 2018 MacBook Pro to a legacy (Thunderbolt 1) WD MyBook Duo and it worked with no issues.
Note
This kind of adapter is only compatible with Thunderbolt devices, not Mini DisplayPort.
1C|Net: USB Type-C and Thunderbolt 3: One port to connect them all
2Thunderbolt Technology Frequently Asked Questions
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I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
|
show 1 more comment
2
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
2
2
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
I would recommend the Apple adapter from my answer instead as it is cheaper, and I have actually verified that it works with Target Display Mode!
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:28
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
@jksoegaard - I tend to not recommend Apple branded adapters/dongles because they have a high tenancy to fail and the reviews on the Apple store seem to confirm my experiences.
– Allan
Nov 28 '18 at 21:36
2
2
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
Sounds like anecdotal evidence - my experience is the contrary. We have used many different types of Apple adapters/dongles in my company, and we've had very low failure rates. In particular, we haven't yet had a failed Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Do you have any statistics to back up that Apple's hardware is subpar to StarTech?
– jksoegaard
Nov 28 '18 at 21:48
2
2
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@jksoegaard as Allan said, the reviews on Apple adaptors are often rather low. I’d also like to point out that you dismissed his comment by saying it was anecdotal and proceeded to provide more anecdotal evidence. Do you have statistics?
– Tim
Nov 29 '18 at 0:03
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
@Tim I know it is anecdotal - that was the point. Two anecdotes that are conflicting - doesn't really help anyone. What is necessary is statistics in order to generally claim that Apple's adapters fails more often than other brands. If I had statistics, I would have posted them.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:38
|
show 1 more comment
I don't think a straight-up cable exists, no. However, you can get an adapter/dongle that works perfectly well for your scenario. You'll need to Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter:
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter
You can read more about the adapter here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266
Note that Target Display Mode is not using the same kind of signal as mini-DisplayPort - therefore a USB-C to mini-DisplayPort cable will not work! It needs to be an actual Thunderbolt 2 source.
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
add a comment |
I don't think a straight-up cable exists, no. However, you can get an adapter/dongle that works perfectly well for your scenario. You'll need to Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter:
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter
You can read more about the adapter here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266
Note that Target Display Mode is not using the same kind of signal as mini-DisplayPort - therefore a USB-C to mini-DisplayPort cable will not work! It needs to be an actual Thunderbolt 2 source.
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
add a comment |
I don't think a straight-up cable exists, no. However, you can get an adapter/dongle that works perfectly well for your scenario. You'll need to Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter:
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter
You can read more about the adapter here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266
Note that Target Display Mode is not using the same kind of signal as mini-DisplayPort - therefore a USB-C to mini-DisplayPort cable will not work! It needs to be an actual Thunderbolt 2 source.
I don't think a straight-up cable exists, no. However, you can get an adapter/dongle that works perfectly well for your scenario. You'll need to Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter:
https://www.apple.com/us_smb_83039/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter
You can read more about the adapter here:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266
Note that Target Display Mode is not using the same kind of signal as mini-DisplayPort - therefore a USB-C to mini-DisplayPort cable will not work! It needs to be an actual Thunderbolt 2 source.
answered Nov 28 '18 at 19:14
jksoegaard
15.6k1642
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Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
add a comment |
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
Re: signal for target display mode, it is either Thunderbolt or DisplayPort, depending on generation.
– user71659
Nov 29 '18 at 2:50
1
1
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
@user71659 Yes, but this question is about the mid-2011 iMac, which uses Thunderbolt - and not a mini-DisplayPort signal.
– jksoegaard
Nov 29 '18 at 8:39
add a comment |
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