Why do I have these arp cache entries, for addresses way outside my network?












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$ ip -4 neigh show dev eno1
209.132.181.16 FAILED
152.19.134.142 FAILED
85.236.55.6 FAILED
152.19.134.198 FAILED
8.43.85.67 FAILED
140.211.169.206 FAILED


How could these weird ip neighbour (ARP) entries be appearing on my Ethernet interface?



eno1 is an Ethernet interface. It is not currently connected. Based on journalctl -b | grep eno1, I do not think I have connected it at all during this boot! I do not use a static IP. I have not changed my IP settings manually during this boot. The network settings are all managed by NetworkManager. I have connected only to my home networks, which use addresses in the private range 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 only.



For example on my current wireless connection, I see that my address is 172.16.8.139/24. That says the network prefix is 24 bits, and so ARP resolution should be limited to the range 172.16.8.0 - 172.16.8.255.



$ ip -4 addr show dev wlp2s0
4: wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
inet 172.16.8.139/24 brd 172.16.8.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlp2s0
valid_lft 39441sec preferred_lft 39441sec

$ ip -4 neigh show dev wlp2s0
172.16.8.1 lladdr 74:44:01:86:42:d6 REACHABLE




$ lsb_release -d
Description: Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine)
$ rpm -q NetworkManager dhcp-client
NetworkManager-1.12.6-5.fc29.x86_64
dhcp-client-4.3.6-28.fc29.x86_64


My router is OpenWRT 18.06.1, so the DHCP server is dnsmasq.










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    $ ip -4 neigh show dev eno1
    209.132.181.16 FAILED
    152.19.134.142 FAILED
    85.236.55.6 FAILED
    152.19.134.198 FAILED
    8.43.85.67 FAILED
    140.211.169.206 FAILED


    How could these weird ip neighbour (ARP) entries be appearing on my Ethernet interface?



    eno1 is an Ethernet interface. It is not currently connected. Based on journalctl -b | grep eno1, I do not think I have connected it at all during this boot! I do not use a static IP. I have not changed my IP settings manually during this boot. The network settings are all managed by NetworkManager. I have connected only to my home networks, which use addresses in the private range 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 only.



    For example on my current wireless connection, I see that my address is 172.16.8.139/24. That says the network prefix is 24 bits, and so ARP resolution should be limited to the range 172.16.8.0 - 172.16.8.255.



    $ ip -4 addr show dev wlp2s0
    4: wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
    inet 172.16.8.139/24 brd 172.16.8.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlp2s0
    valid_lft 39441sec preferred_lft 39441sec

    $ ip -4 neigh show dev wlp2s0
    172.16.8.1 lladdr 74:44:01:86:42:d6 REACHABLE




    $ lsb_release -d
    Description: Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine)
    $ rpm -q NetworkManager dhcp-client
    NetworkManager-1.12.6-5.fc29.x86_64
    dhcp-client-4.3.6-28.fc29.x86_64


    My router is OpenWRT 18.06.1, so the DHCP server is dnsmasq.










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      $ ip -4 neigh show dev eno1
      209.132.181.16 FAILED
      152.19.134.142 FAILED
      85.236.55.6 FAILED
      152.19.134.198 FAILED
      8.43.85.67 FAILED
      140.211.169.206 FAILED


      How could these weird ip neighbour (ARP) entries be appearing on my Ethernet interface?



      eno1 is an Ethernet interface. It is not currently connected. Based on journalctl -b | grep eno1, I do not think I have connected it at all during this boot! I do not use a static IP. I have not changed my IP settings manually during this boot. The network settings are all managed by NetworkManager. I have connected only to my home networks, which use addresses in the private range 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 only.



      For example on my current wireless connection, I see that my address is 172.16.8.139/24. That says the network prefix is 24 bits, and so ARP resolution should be limited to the range 172.16.8.0 - 172.16.8.255.



      $ ip -4 addr show dev wlp2s0
      4: wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
      inet 172.16.8.139/24 brd 172.16.8.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlp2s0
      valid_lft 39441sec preferred_lft 39441sec

      $ ip -4 neigh show dev wlp2s0
      172.16.8.1 lladdr 74:44:01:86:42:d6 REACHABLE




      $ lsb_release -d
      Description: Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine)
      $ rpm -q NetworkManager dhcp-client
      NetworkManager-1.12.6-5.fc29.x86_64
      dhcp-client-4.3.6-28.fc29.x86_64


      My router is OpenWRT 18.06.1, so the DHCP server is dnsmasq.










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      $ ip -4 neigh show dev eno1
      209.132.181.16 FAILED
      152.19.134.142 FAILED
      85.236.55.6 FAILED
      152.19.134.198 FAILED
      8.43.85.67 FAILED
      140.211.169.206 FAILED


      How could these weird ip neighbour (ARP) entries be appearing on my Ethernet interface?



      eno1 is an Ethernet interface. It is not currently connected. Based on journalctl -b | grep eno1, I do not think I have connected it at all during this boot! I do not use a static IP. I have not changed my IP settings manually during this boot. The network settings are all managed by NetworkManager. I have connected only to my home networks, which use addresses in the private range 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 only.



      For example on my current wireless connection, I see that my address is 172.16.8.139/24. That says the network prefix is 24 bits, and so ARP resolution should be limited to the range 172.16.8.0 - 172.16.8.255.



      $ ip -4 addr show dev wlp2s0
      4: wlp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP group default qlen 1000
      inet 172.16.8.139/24 brd 172.16.8.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute wlp2s0
      valid_lft 39441sec preferred_lft 39441sec

      $ ip -4 neigh show dev wlp2s0
      172.16.8.1 lladdr 74:44:01:86:42:d6 REACHABLE




      $ lsb_release -d
      Description: Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine)
      $ rpm -q NetworkManager dhcp-client
      NetworkManager-1.12.6-5.fc29.x86_64
      dhcp-client-4.3.6-28.fc29.x86_64


      My router is OpenWRT 18.06.1, so the DHCP server is dnsmasq.







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          What are the "neighbours" called? - my first idea.



          $ ip -r -4 neigh show dev eno1
          proxy01.fedoraproject.org FAILED
          vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
          6-55-236-85.rev.customer-net.de FAILED
          vm18.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
          proxy13-rdu02.fedoraproject.org FAILED
          proxy14.fedoraproject.org FAILED
          proxy09.fedoraproject.org FAILED


          It's trying to connect to a Fedora-specific service. I.e. the system uses some network service. Fedora is providing it. (And/or ibiblio.org are donating service to Fedora, using a specific host name, etc.) These hosts are most likely primarily providing some Web service (HTTP / HTTPS). "proxy" in a hostname tends to mean some form of Web proxy, and these can be used as a front end for various reasons e.g. caching or load balancing.



          Why would I see such out-of-range ARP entries? - the biggest question.



          I found the answer on StackOverflow: Why ARP requests a non-local address?



          When one interface has no addresses/routes at all, but you explicitly tell Linux to transmit using it, Linux will assume your target address is on-link.[*]



          $ sudo traceroute --udp -i eno1 8.8.8.8
          traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
          ^C
          $ ip neigh show dev eno1 | grep 8.8.8.8
          8.8.8.8 INCOMPLETE


          I expect this is NetworkManager, because I don't have any other software which is likely to try to contact a Web service using a specific interface. (Note this operation requires privilege - I had to use sudo to run traceroute through a specific interface).



          NetworkManager uses a web service to check internet connectivity, and to detect captive portals. This is mentioned in the CONNECTIVITY section of man NetworkManager.conf.



          It looks like NetworkManager has been checking this interface, despite knowing there is no connection on it :-).





          [*] This means the sender IP address in the ARP packet, is taken from a different interface :-). Or when I shut down my WiFi and libvirtd networks, it uses 0.0.0.0 :-). Tested using tcpdump and a second computer connected directly with an ethernet cable






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            What are the "neighbours" called? - my first idea.



            $ ip -r -4 neigh show dev eno1
            proxy01.fedoraproject.org FAILED
            vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
            6-55-236-85.rev.customer-net.de FAILED
            vm18.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
            proxy13-rdu02.fedoraproject.org FAILED
            proxy14.fedoraproject.org FAILED
            proxy09.fedoraproject.org FAILED


            It's trying to connect to a Fedora-specific service. I.e. the system uses some network service. Fedora is providing it. (And/or ibiblio.org are donating service to Fedora, using a specific host name, etc.) These hosts are most likely primarily providing some Web service (HTTP / HTTPS). "proxy" in a hostname tends to mean some form of Web proxy, and these can be used as a front end for various reasons e.g. caching or load balancing.



            Why would I see such out-of-range ARP entries? - the biggest question.



            I found the answer on StackOverflow: Why ARP requests a non-local address?



            When one interface has no addresses/routes at all, but you explicitly tell Linux to transmit using it, Linux will assume your target address is on-link.[*]



            $ sudo traceroute --udp -i eno1 8.8.8.8
            traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
            ^C
            $ ip neigh show dev eno1 | grep 8.8.8.8
            8.8.8.8 INCOMPLETE


            I expect this is NetworkManager, because I don't have any other software which is likely to try to contact a Web service using a specific interface. (Note this operation requires privilege - I had to use sudo to run traceroute through a specific interface).



            NetworkManager uses a web service to check internet connectivity, and to detect captive portals. This is mentioned in the CONNECTIVITY section of man NetworkManager.conf.



            It looks like NetworkManager has been checking this interface, despite knowing there is no connection on it :-).





            [*] This means the sender IP address in the ARP packet, is taken from a different interface :-). Or when I shut down my WiFi and libvirtd networks, it uses 0.0.0.0 :-). Tested using tcpdump and a second computer connected directly with an ethernet cable






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              What are the "neighbours" called? - my first idea.



              $ ip -r -4 neigh show dev eno1
              proxy01.fedoraproject.org FAILED
              vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
              6-55-236-85.rev.customer-net.de FAILED
              vm18.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
              proxy13-rdu02.fedoraproject.org FAILED
              proxy14.fedoraproject.org FAILED
              proxy09.fedoraproject.org FAILED


              It's trying to connect to a Fedora-specific service. I.e. the system uses some network service. Fedora is providing it. (And/or ibiblio.org are donating service to Fedora, using a specific host name, etc.) These hosts are most likely primarily providing some Web service (HTTP / HTTPS). "proxy" in a hostname tends to mean some form of Web proxy, and these can be used as a front end for various reasons e.g. caching or load balancing.



              Why would I see such out-of-range ARP entries? - the biggest question.



              I found the answer on StackOverflow: Why ARP requests a non-local address?



              When one interface has no addresses/routes at all, but you explicitly tell Linux to transmit using it, Linux will assume your target address is on-link.[*]



              $ sudo traceroute --udp -i eno1 8.8.8.8
              traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
              ^C
              $ ip neigh show dev eno1 | grep 8.8.8.8
              8.8.8.8 INCOMPLETE


              I expect this is NetworkManager, because I don't have any other software which is likely to try to contact a Web service using a specific interface. (Note this operation requires privilege - I had to use sudo to run traceroute through a specific interface).



              NetworkManager uses a web service to check internet connectivity, and to detect captive portals. This is mentioned in the CONNECTIVITY section of man NetworkManager.conf.



              It looks like NetworkManager has been checking this interface, despite knowing there is no connection on it :-).





              [*] This means the sender IP address in the ARP packet, is taken from a different interface :-). Or when I shut down my WiFi and libvirtd networks, it uses 0.0.0.0 :-). Tested using tcpdump and a second computer connected directly with an ethernet cable






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                What are the "neighbours" called? - my first idea.



                $ ip -r -4 neigh show dev eno1
                proxy01.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
                6-55-236-85.rev.customer-net.de FAILED
                vm18.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
                proxy13-rdu02.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                proxy14.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                proxy09.fedoraproject.org FAILED


                It's trying to connect to a Fedora-specific service. I.e. the system uses some network service. Fedora is providing it. (And/or ibiblio.org are donating service to Fedora, using a specific host name, etc.) These hosts are most likely primarily providing some Web service (HTTP / HTTPS). "proxy" in a hostname tends to mean some form of Web proxy, and these can be used as a front end for various reasons e.g. caching or load balancing.



                Why would I see such out-of-range ARP entries? - the biggest question.



                I found the answer on StackOverflow: Why ARP requests a non-local address?



                When one interface has no addresses/routes at all, but you explicitly tell Linux to transmit using it, Linux will assume your target address is on-link.[*]



                $ sudo traceroute --udp -i eno1 8.8.8.8
                traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
                ^C
                $ ip neigh show dev eno1 | grep 8.8.8.8
                8.8.8.8 INCOMPLETE


                I expect this is NetworkManager, because I don't have any other software which is likely to try to contact a Web service using a specific interface. (Note this operation requires privilege - I had to use sudo to run traceroute through a specific interface).



                NetworkManager uses a web service to check internet connectivity, and to detect captive portals. This is mentioned in the CONNECTIVITY section of man NetworkManager.conf.



                It looks like NetworkManager has been checking this interface, despite knowing there is no connection on it :-).





                [*] This means the sender IP address in the ARP packet, is taken from a different interface :-). Or when I shut down my WiFi and libvirtd networks, it uses 0.0.0.0 :-). Tested using tcpdump and a second computer connected directly with an ethernet cable






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                What are the "neighbours" called? - my first idea.



                $ ip -r -4 neigh show dev eno1
                proxy01.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
                6-55-236-85.rev.customer-net.de FAILED
                vm18.fedora.ibiblio.org FAILED
                proxy13-rdu02.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                proxy14.fedoraproject.org FAILED
                proxy09.fedoraproject.org FAILED


                It's trying to connect to a Fedora-specific service. I.e. the system uses some network service. Fedora is providing it. (And/or ibiblio.org are donating service to Fedora, using a specific host name, etc.) These hosts are most likely primarily providing some Web service (HTTP / HTTPS). "proxy" in a hostname tends to mean some form of Web proxy, and these can be used as a front end for various reasons e.g. caching or load balancing.



                Why would I see such out-of-range ARP entries? - the biggest question.



                I found the answer on StackOverflow: Why ARP requests a non-local address?



                When one interface has no addresses/routes at all, but you explicitly tell Linux to transmit using it, Linux will assume your target address is on-link.[*]



                $ sudo traceroute --udp -i eno1 8.8.8.8
                traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
                ^C
                $ ip neigh show dev eno1 | grep 8.8.8.8
                8.8.8.8 INCOMPLETE


                I expect this is NetworkManager, because I don't have any other software which is likely to try to contact a Web service using a specific interface. (Note this operation requires privilege - I had to use sudo to run traceroute through a specific interface).



                NetworkManager uses a web service to check internet connectivity, and to detect captive portals. This is mentioned in the CONNECTIVITY section of man NetworkManager.conf.



                It looks like NetworkManager has been checking this interface, despite knowing there is no connection on it :-).





                [*] This means the sender IP address in the ARP packet, is taken from a different interface :-). Or when I shut down my WiFi and libvirtd networks, it uses 0.0.0.0 :-). Tested using tcpdump and a second computer connected directly with an ethernet cable







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