A Unix AIX variable without a $ symbol?
I'm trying to debug an existing program and found an if condition without $ symbol prefixed to it.
Values are:
dt_val=1234
prev_dt_val=1234
If condition goes like:
if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ]
then
echo "Equal"
else
echo "Not equal"
fi
Result:
Equal
Anyone throw some light on how the condition is working fine without a $ symbol?
Shouldn't that be..?
[ $dt_val -eq $prev_dt_val ]
The same condition fails when comparing string values. Does that mean, this condition does not require a $ symbol for number?
Additional info:
Comparing Strings with == as suggested:
dt_val="abcd"
prev_dt_val="abcd"
if [ dt_val == prev_dt_val ]
> then
> echo Equal
> else
> echo Not equal
> fi
Not equal
Shell Info:
echo $SHELL
/usr/bin/ksh
Version M-11/16/88f
Wondering why there's no error either.
variable ksh aix test numeric-data
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I'm trying to debug an existing program and found an if condition without $ symbol prefixed to it.
Values are:
dt_val=1234
prev_dt_val=1234
If condition goes like:
if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ]
then
echo "Equal"
else
echo "Not equal"
fi
Result:
Equal
Anyone throw some light on how the condition is working fine without a $ symbol?
Shouldn't that be..?
[ $dt_val -eq $prev_dt_val ]
The same condition fails when comparing string values. Does that mean, this condition does not require a $ symbol for number?
Additional info:
Comparing Strings with == as suggested:
dt_val="abcd"
prev_dt_val="abcd"
if [ dt_val == prev_dt_val ]
> then
> echo Equal
> else
> echo Not equal
> fi
Not equal
Shell Info:
echo $SHELL
/usr/bin/ksh
Version M-11/16/88f
Wondering why there's no error either.
variable ksh aix test numeric-data
It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
Really similar, but talks about[[
instead of[
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using-eq
would be wrong for strings (use=
or!=
for strings).
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
1
The[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the-eq
test as a proper arithmetic context.$
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.
– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14
|
show 1 more comment
I'm trying to debug an existing program and found an if condition without $ symbol prefixed to it.
Values are:
dt_val=1234
prev_dt_val=1234
If condition goes like:
if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ]
then
echo "Equal"
else
echo "Not equal"
fi
Result:
Equal
Anyone throw some light on how the condition is working fine without a $ symbol?
Shouldn't that be..?
[ $dt_val -eq $prev_dt_val ]
The same condition fails when comparing string values. Does that mean, this condition does not require a $ symbol for number?
Additional info:
Comparing Strings with == as suggested:
dt_val="abcd"
prev_dt_val="abcd"
if [ dt_val == prev_dt_val ]
> then
> echo Equal
> else
> echo Not equal
> fi
Not equal
Shell Info:
echo $SHELL
/usr/bin/ksh
Version M-11/16/88f
Wondering why there's no error either.
variable ksh aix test numeric-data
I'm trying to debug an existing program and found an if condition without $ symbol prefixed to it.
Values are:
dt_val=1234
prev_dt_val=1234
If condition goes like:
if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ]
then
echo "Equal"
else
echo "Not equal"
fi
Result:
Equal
Anyone throw some light on how the condition is working fine without a $ symbol?
Shouldn't that be..?
[ $dt_val -eq $prev_dt_val ]
The same condition fails when comparing string values. Does that mean, this condition does not require a $ symbol for number?
Additional info:
Comparing Strings with == as suggested:
dt_val="abcd"
prev_dt_val="abcd"
if [ dt_val == prev_dt_val ]
> then
> echo Equal
> else
> echo Not equal
> fi
Not equal
Shell Info:
echo $SHELL
/usr/bin/ksh
Version M-11/16/88f
Wondering why there's no error either.
variable ksh aix test numeric-data
variable ksh aix test numeric-data
edited Jan 15 at 15:00
Santhosh Ram
asked Jan 15 at 13:35
Santhosh RamSanthosh Ram
235
235
It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
Really similar, but talks about[[
instead of[
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using-eq
would be wrong for strings (use=
or!=
for strings).
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
1
The[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the-eq
test as a proper arithmetic context.$
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.
– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14
|
show 1 more comment
It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
Really similar, but talks about[[
instead of[
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using-eq
would be wrong for strings (use=
or!=
for strings).
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
1
The[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the-eq
test as a proper arithmetic context.$
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.
– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14
It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without
$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without
$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
Really similar, but talks about
[[
instead of [
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
Really similar, but talks about
[[
instead of [
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using
-eq
would be wrong for strings (use =
or !=
for strings).– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using
-eq
would be wrong for strings (use =
or !=
for strings).– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
1
1
The
[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the -eq
test as a proper arithmetic context. $
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14
The
[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the -eq
test as a proper arithmetic context. $
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14
|
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In ksh
, the builtin [
takes the operands of -eq
as in an arithmetic context, just like Bash does for [[
and -eq
. And in an arithmetic context, variables don't need the $
sign.
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=2; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
or even:
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=8; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=9; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
(However, the *
still globs, so a*4
should be quoted there.)
That's ksh93, ksh --version
shows sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
, it's from Debian's package (ksh
, package version 93u+20120801-3.1
). I get the same result with Debian's mksh
, so I suppose ksh88 is close enough here.
For comparison, in Bash that gives an error:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
bash: line 0: [: a: integer expression expected
different
(it prints different
, since [
returns a falsy value on error).
With [[
it works:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [[ a -eq b ]]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
Zsh is like Bash here, [
errors on a -eq b
, [[
works.
add a comment |
Firstly, the script is not evaluatling the variables as it's missing the $
in front of the variable names, like you also discovered.
Secondly, it's outputting "Equal" because it's using the numeric compare operator -eq
in the test
([
) command. As it's passed two non-numerical strings as parameters, they both evaluate to the same numeric value and hence the "Equal" string is output.
Note that at least by bash version complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
-bash: [: bla: integer expression expected
My dash version also complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
dash: 1: [: Illegal number: bla
I'm interested what shell you are using that doesn't complain.
Even if there are variables present with the names of those strings I get the same result.
but if you setdt_val=5
, the test fails...
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
|
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In ksh
, the builtin [
takes the operands of -eq
as in an arithmetic context, just like Bash does for [[
and -eq
. And in an arithmetic context, variables don't need the $
sign.
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=2; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
or even:
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=8; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=9; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
(However, the *
still globs, so a*4
should be quoted there.)
That's ksh93, ksh --version
shows sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
, it's from Debian's package (ksh
, package version 93u+20120801-3.1
). I get the same result with Debian's mksh
, so I suppose ksh88 is close enough here.
For comparison, in Bash that gives an error:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
bash: line 0: [: a: integer expression expected
different
(it prints different
, since [
returns a falsy value on error).
With [[
it works:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [[ a -eq b ]]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
Zsh is like Bash here, [
errors on a -eq b
, [[
works.
add a comment |
In ksh
, the builtin [
takes the operands of -eq
as in an arithmetic context, just like Bash does for [[
and -eq
. And in an arithmetic context, variables don't need the $
sign.
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=2; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
or even:
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=8; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=9; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
(However, the *
still globs, so a*4
should be quoted there.)
That's ksh93, ksh --version
shows sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
, it's from Debian's package (ksh
, package version 93u+20120801-3.1
). I get the same result with Debian's mksh
, so I suppose ksh88 is close enough here.
For comparison, in Bash that gives an error:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
bash: line 0: [: a: integer expression expected
different
(it prints different
, since [
returns a falsy value on error).
With [[
it works:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [[ a -eq b ]]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
Zsh is like Bash here, [
errors on a -eq b
, [[
works.
add a comment |
In ksh
, the builtin [
takes the operands of -eq
as in an arithmetic context, just like Bash does for [[
and -eq
. And in an arithmetic context, variables don't need the $
sign.
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=2; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
or even:
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=8; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=9; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
(However, the *
still globs, so a*4
should be quoted there.)
That's ksh93, ksh --version
shows sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
, it's from Debian's package (ksh
, package version 93u+20120801-3.1
). I get the same result with Debian's mksh
, so I suppose ksh88 is close enough here.
For comparison, in Bash that gives an error:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
bash: line 0: [: a: integer expression expected
different
(it prints different
, since [
returns a falsy value on error).
With [[
it works:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [[ a -eq b ]]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
Zsh is like Bash here, [
errors on a -eq b
, [[
works.
In ksh
, the builtin [
takes the operands of -eq
as in an arithmetic context, just like Bash does for [[
and -eq
. And in an arithmetic context, variables don't need the $
sign.
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=1 b=2; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
or even:
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=8; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
$ ksh -c 'a=2 b=9; if [ a*4 -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
different
(However, the *
still globs, so a*4
should be quoted there.)
That's ksh93, ksh --version
shows sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
, it's from Debian's package (ksh
, package version 93u+20120801-3.1
). I get the same result with Debian's mksh
, so I suppose ksh88 is close enough here.
For comparison, in Bash that gives an error:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [ a -eq b ]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
bash: line 0: [: a: integer expression expected
different
(it prints different
, since [
returns a falsy value on error).
With [[
it works:
$ bash -c 'a=1 b=1; if [[ a -eq b ]]; then echo equal; else echo different; fi'
equal
Zsh is like Bash here, [
errors on a -eq b
, [[
works.
edited Jan 15 at 21:02
answered Jan 15 at 20:38
ilkkachuilkkachu
56.9k785158
56.9k785158
add a comment |
add a comment |
Firstly, the script is not evaluatling the variables as it's missing the $
in front of the variable names, like you also discovered.
Secondly, it's outputting "Equal" because it's using the numeric compare operator -eq
in the test
([
) command. As it's passed two non-numerical strings as parameters, they both evaluate to the same numeric value and hence the "Equal" string is output.
Note that at least by bash version complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
-bash: [: bla: integer expression expected
My dash version also complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
dash: 1: [: Illegal number: bla
I'm interested what shell you are using that doesn't complain.
Even if there are variables present with the names of those strings I get the same result.
but if you setdt_val=5
, the test fails...
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
|
show 4 more comments
Firstly, the script is not evaluatling the variables as it's missing the $
in front of the variable names, like you also discovered.
Secondly, it's outputting "Equal" because it's using the numeric compare operator -eq
in the test
([
) command. As it's passed two non-numerical strings as parameters, they both evaluate to the same numeric value and hence the "Equal" string is output.
Note that at least by bash version complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
-bash: [: bla: integer expression expected
My dash version also complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
dash: 1: [: Illegal number: bla
I'm interested what shell you are using that doesn't complain.
Even if there are variables present with the names of those strings I get the same result.
but if you setdt_val=5
, the test fails...
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
|
show 4 more comments
Firstly, the script is not evaluatling the variables as it's missing the $
in front of the variable names, like you also discovered.
Secondly, it's outputting "Equal" because it's using the numeric compare operator -eq
in the test
([
) command. As it's passed two non-numerical strings as parameters, they both evaluate to the same numeric value and hence the "Equal" string is output.
Note that at least by bash version complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
-bash: [: bla: integer expression expected
My dash version also complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
dash: 1: [: Illegal number: bla
I'm interested what shell you are using that doesn't complain.
Even if there are variables present with the names of those strings I get the same result.
Firstly, the script is not evaluatling the variables as it's missing the $
in front of the variable names, like you also discovered.
Secondly, it's outputting "Equal" because it's using the numeric compare operator -eq
in the test
([
) command. As it's passed two non-numerical strings as parameters, they both evaluate to the same numeric value and hence the "Equal" string is output.
Note that at least by bash version complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
-bash: [: bla: integer expression expected
My dash version also complains:
$ if [ 0 -eq bla ]; then echo yes; fi
dash: 1: [: Illegal number: bla
I'm interested what shell you are using that doesn't complain.
Even if there are variables present with the names of those strings I get the same result.
answered Jan 15 at 13:49
wurtelwurtel
10.3k11426
10.3k11426
but if you setdt_val=5
, the test fails...
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
|
show 4 more comments
but if you setdt_val=5
, the test fails...
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
but if you set
dt_val=5
, the test fails...– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
but if you set
dt_val=5
, the test fails...– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
I'm using ksh. It gives me the error when i'm comparing string values such as "abcd" ksh: abcd: 0403-009 The specified number is not valid for this command
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:11
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
@JeffSchaller, No, it's not failing for me. I get the result as Equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:12
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
dt_val=5 prev_dt_val=6 if [ dt_val -eq prev_dt_val ] then echo equal else echo not equal fi not equal
– Santhosh Ram
Jan 15 at 14:15
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
@SanthoshRam what version of ksh?
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:23
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It might help illustrate the situation better if you demonstrate unequal values comparing (successfully) as unequal, without
$
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 13:55
Really similar, but talks about
[[
instead of[
-- unix.stackexchange.com/q/244685/117549– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:02
If I was to guess, ksh is using the same code as [[ and is performing variable expansion "for" you.
– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:22
Could you split the question into separate examples of string versus numeric values for testing? Using
-eq
would be wrong for strings (use=
or!=
for strings).– Jeff Schaller
Jan 15 at 14:41
1
The
[
is a built-in command, and it may treat the-eq
test as a proper arithmetic context.$
is not needed on variables in an arithmetic context.– Kusalananda
Jan 15 at 16:14