Writing a proof
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I am stuck at showing how if:
$P rightarrow Q$ then this implies ($Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$
I know that if we assume $P$ is true then $Q$ also must be true.
Therefore if $Q$ is true then $R$ must be true. And because $Q$ is true because $P$ is true so therefore $R$ must also be true.
However it would be appreciated if someone could help me understand this why is the case and what proof technique it is.
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I am stuck at showing how if:
$P rightarrow Q$ then this implies ($Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$
I know that if we assume $P$ is true then $Q$ also must be true.
Therefore if $Q$ is true then $R$ must be true. And because $Q$ is true because $P$ is true so therefore $R$ must also be true.
However it would be appreciated if someone could help me understand this why is the case and what proof technique it is.
proof-writing proof-explanation
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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– user247327
9 hours ago
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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I am stuck at showing how if:
$P rightarrow Q$ then this implies ($Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$
I know that if we assume $P$ is true then $Q$ also must be true.
Therefore if $Q$ is true then $R$ must be true. And because $Q$ is true because $P$ is true so therefore $R$ must also be true.
However it would be appreciated if someone could help me understand this why is the case and what proof technique it is.
proof-writing proof-explanation
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I am stuck at showing how if:
$P rightarrow Q$ then this implies ($Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$
I know that if we assume $P$ is true then $Q$ also must be true.
Therefore if $Q$ is true then $R$ must be true. And because $Q$ is true because $P$ is true so therefore $R$ must also be true.
However it would be appreciated if someone could help me understand this why is the case and what proof technique it is.
proof-writing proof-explanation
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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– user247327
9 hours ago
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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– user247327
9 hours ago
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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– Molly
9 hours ago
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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– user247327
9 hours ago
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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– user247327
9 hours ago
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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– Molly
9 hours ago
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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This property is called transitivity of implication.
You pretty much gave a proof in your question, but here's a proof written out in slightly more precise terms.
Suppose $P Rightarrow Q$ is true. To prove $(Q Rightarrow R) Rightarrow (P Rightarrow R)$, you need to assume $Q Rightarrow R$ and derive $P Rightarrow R$. So assume that $Q Rightarrow R$ is true. To prove $P Rightarrow R$ is true, you need to assume $P$ is true and derive $R$. So assume $P$ is true. All we have to do now is prove that $R$ is true.
At this point, we're assuming that $P Rightarrow Q$, $Q Rightarrow R$ and $P$ are all true. So:
- Since $P$ and $P Rightarrow Q$ are true, we have that $Q$ is true; and
- Since $Q$ and $Q Rightarrow R$ are true, we have that $R$ is true.
So we're done.
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You can also prove this somewhat verbosely with a truth table... (I have named my intermediate steps just because the table was too wide to display nicely.)
$$
begin{array}{|c c c|c|c|c|c|c|}
P & Q & R & P implies Q & Q implies R & P implies R & & \
& & &A&B&C&B implies C & A implies (B implies C) \
\
T & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
T & T & F & T & F & F & T & T\
T & F & T & F & T & T & T & T\
T & F & F & F & T & F & F & T\
F & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & T & F & T & F & T & T & T\
F & F & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & F & F & T & T & T & T & T\
end{array}
$$
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It’s a sort of transitivity. $Pimplies Q$ is true. So if $Qimplies R$, then $Pimplies Qimplies R$. I don’t think there is a name for this. It’s just multiple implications that give a result.
Proving this is simple. Given $Qimplies R$, we want to demonstrate $Pimplies R$.
So let’s suppose that $P$ is true. So, $Q$ is true by $(Pimplies Q)$ (it’s called the “Modus ponens”). But $Q$ is true, so $R$ is true.
QED.
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If you want a conceptual proof, you just need to know how to prove an implication. How do you prove $Arightarrow B$? Assume $A$ is true, then show that $B$ follows (hoping you have some other information laying around to do this using $A$.
Step 1 To show:
$(P rightarrow Q) rightarrow ((Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R))$,
assume $(P rightarrow Q)$ and show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$.step 2 To show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$, assume $Q rightarrow R$ and then show $P rightarrow R$.
step 3 To show $P rightarrow R$, assume $P$ and then show $R$.
At each stage we're assuming something so by this last step we've assumed a whole bunch that can help us to show $R$.
Using $P$, assumed true from the last step and $Prightarrow Q$ assumed true from step 1, $Q$ follows, via modus ponens.
Using this $Q$ and $Qrightarrow R$ assumed true from step 2, $R$ follows, again via modus ponens.
And we're done. In short, a chain of implications unraveled from left to right.
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$ARightarrow B$ can be written as $neg Avee B.$ Therefore,
$$
(QRightarrow R)Rightarrow(PRightarrow R) \
=neg(neg Qvee R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (Q wedge neg R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R)wedge (neg P vee R vee neg R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R) \
= (neg P vee Q)vee R \
= (PRightarrow Q) vee R
$$
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This property is called transitivity of implication.
You pretty much gave a proof in your question, but here's a proof written out in slightly more precise terms.
Suppose $P Rightarrow Q$ is true. To prove $(Q Rightarrow R) Rightarrow (P Rightarrow R)$, you need to assume $Q Rightarrow R$ and derive $P Rightarrow R$. So assume that $Q Rightarrow R$ is true. To prove $P Rightarrow R$ is true, you need to assume $P$ is true and derive $R$. So assume $P$ is true. All we have to do now is prove that $R$ is true.
At this point, we're assuming that $P Rightarrow Q$, $Q Rightarrow R$ and $P$ are all true. So:
- Since $P$ and $P Rightarrow Q$ are true, we have that $Q$ is true; and
- Since $Q$ and $Q Rightarrow R$ are true, we have that $R$ is true.
So we're done.
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This property is called transitivity of implication.
You pretty much gave a proof in your question, but here's a proof written out in slightly more precise terms.
Suppose $P Rightarrow Q$ is true. To prove $(Q Rightarrow R) Rightarrow (P Rightarrow R)$, you need to assume $Q Rightarrow R$ and derive $P Rightarrow R$. So assume that $Q Rightarrow R$ is true. To prove $P Rightarrow R$ is true, you need to assume $P$ is true and derive $R$. So assume $P$ is true. All we have to do now is prove that $R$ is true.
At this point, we're assuming that $P Rightarrow Q$, $Q Rightarrow R$ and $P$ are all true. So:
- Since $P$ and $P Rightarrow Q$ are true, we have that $Q$ is true; and
- Since $Q$ and $Q Rightarrow R$ are true, we have that $R$ is true.
So we're done.
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This property is called transitivity of implication.
You pretty much gave a proof in your question, but here's a proof written out in slightly more precise terms.
Suppose $P Rightarrow Q$ is true. To prove $(Q Rightarrow R) Rightarrow (P Rightarrow R)$, you need to assume $Q Rightarrow R$ and derive $P Rightarrow R$. So assume that $Q Rightarrow R$ is true. To prove $P Rightarrow R$ is true, you need to assume $P$ is true and derive $R$. So assume $P$ is true. All we have to do now is prove that $R$ is true.
At this point, we're assuming that $P Rightarrow Q$, $Q Rightarrow R$ and $P$ are all true. So:
- Since $P$ and $P Rightarrow Q$ are true, we have that $Q$ is true; and
- Since $Q$ and $Q Rightarrow R$ are true, we have that $R$ is true.
So we're done.
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This property is called transitivity of implication.
You pretty much gave a proof in your question, but here's a proof written out in slightly more precise terms.
Suppose $P Rightarrow Q$ is true. To prove $(Q Rightarrow R) Rightarrow (P Rightarrow R)$, you need to assume $Q Rightarrow R$ and derive $P Rightarrow R$. So assume that $Q Rightarrow R$ is true. To prove $P Rightarrow R$ is true, you need to assume $P$ is true and derive $R$. So assume $P$ is true. All we have to do now is prove that $R$ is true.
At this point, we're assuming that $P Rightarrow Q$, $Q Rightarrow R$ and $P$ are all true. So:
- Since $P$ and $P Rightarrow Q$ are true, we have that $Q$ is true; and
- Since $Q$ and $Q Rightarrow R$ are true, we have that $R$ is true.
So we're done.
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You can also prove this somewhat verbosely with a truth table... (I have named my intermediate steps just because the table was too wide to display nicely.)
$$
begin{array}{|c c c|c|c|c|c|c|}
P & Q & R & P implies Q & Q implies R & P implies R & & \
& & &A&B&C&B implies C & A implies (B implies C) \
\
T & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
T & T & F & T & F & F & T & T\
T & F & T & F & T & T & T & T\
T & F & F & F & T & F & F & T\
F & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & T & F & T & F & T & T & T\
F & F & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & F & F & T & T & T & T & T\
end{array}
$$
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You can also prove this somewhat verbosely with a truth table... (I have named my intermediate steps just because the table was too wide to display nicely.)
$$
begin{array}{|c c c|c|c|c|c|c|}
P & Q & R & P implies Q & Q implies R & P implies R & & \
& & &A&B&C&B implies C & A implies (B implies C) \
\
T & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
T & T & F & T & F & F & T & T\
T & F & T & F & T & T & T & T\
T & F & F & F & T & F & F & T\
F & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & T & F & T & F & T & T & T\
F & F & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & F & F & T & T & T & T & T\
end{array}
$$
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You can also prove this somewhat verbosely with a truth table... (I have named my intermediate steps just because the table was too wide to display nicely.)
$$
begin{array}{|c c c|c|c|c|c|c|}
P & Q & R & P implies Q & Q implies R & P implies R & & \
& & &A&B&C&B implies C & A implies (B implies C) \
\
T & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
T & T & F & T & F & F & T & T\
T & F & T & F & T & T & T & T\
T & F & F & F & T & F & F & T\
F & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & T & F & T & F & T & T & T\
F & F & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & F & F & T & T & T & T & T\
end{array}
$$
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You can also prove this somewhat verbosely with a truth table... (I have named my intermediate steps just because the table was too wide to display nicely.)
$$
begin{array}{|c c c|c|c|c|c|c|}
P & Q & R & P implies Q & Q implies R & P implies R & & \
& & &A&B&C&B implies C & A implies (B implies C) \
\
T & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
T & T & F & T & F & F & T & T\
T & F & T & F & T & T & T & T\
T & F & F & F & T & F & F & T\
F & T & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & T & F & T & F & T & T & T\
F & F & T & T & T & T & T & T\
F & F & F & T & T & T & T & T\
end{array}
$$
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It’s a sort of transitivity. $Pimplies Q$ is true. So if $Qimplies R$, then $Pimplies Qimplies R$. I don’t think there is a name for this. It’s just multiple implications that give a result.
Proving this is simple. Given $Qimplies R$, we want to demonstrate $Pimplies R$.
So let’s suppose that $P$ is true. So, $Q$ is true by $(Pimplies Q)$ (it’s called the “Modus ponens”). But $Q$ is true, so $R$ is true.
QED.
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It’s a sort of transitivity. $Pimplies Q$ is true. So if $Qimplies R$, then $Pimplies Qimplies R$. I don’t think there is a name for this. It’s just multiple implications that give a result.
Proving this is simple. Given $Qimplies R$, we want to demonstrate $Pimplies R$.
So let’s suppose that $P$ is true. So, $Q$ is true by $(Pimplies Q)$ (it’s called the “Modus ponens”). But $Q$ is true, so $R$ is true.
QED.
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It’s a sort of transitivity. $Pimplies Q$ is true. So if $Qimplies R$, then $Pimplies Qimplies R$. I don’t think there is a name for this. It’s just multiple implications that give a result.
Proving this is simple. Given $Qimplies R$, we want to demonstrate $Pimplies R$.
So let’s suppose that $P$ is true. So, $Q$ is true by $(Pimplies Q)$ (it’s called the “Modus ponens”). But $Q$ is true, so $R$ is true.
QED.
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It’s a sort of transitivity. $Pimplies Q$ is true. So if $Qimplies R$, then $Pimplies Qimplies R$. I don’t think there is a name for this. It’s just multiple implications that give a result.
Proving this is simple. Given $Qimplies R$, we want to demonstrate $Pimplies R$.
So let’s suppose that $P$ is true. So, $Q$ is true by $(Pimplies Q)$ (it’s called the “Modus ponens”). But $Q$ is true, so $R$ is true.
QED.
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If you want a conceptual proof, you just need to know how to prove an implication. How do you prove $Arightarrow B$? Assume $A$ is true, then show that $B$ follows (hoping you have some other information laying around to do this using $A$.
Step 1 To show:
$(P rightarrow Q) rightarrow ((Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R))$,
assume $(P rightarrow Q)$ and show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$.step 2 To show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$, assume $Q rightarrow R$ and then show $P rightarrow R$.
step 3 To show $P rightarrow R$, assume $P$ and then show $R$.
At each stage we're assuming something so by this last step we've assumed a whole bunch that can help us to show $R$.
Using $P$, assumed true from the last step and $Prightarrow Q$ assumed true from step 1, $Q$ follows, via modus ponens.
Using this $Q$ and $Qrightarrow R$ assumed true from step 2, $R$ follows, again via modus ponens.
And we're done. In short, a chain of implications unraveled from left to right.
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If you want a conceptual proof, you just need to know how to prove an implication. How do you prove $Arightarrow B$? Assume $A$ is true, then show that $B$ follows (hoping you have some other information laying around to do this using $A$.
Step 1 To show:
$(P rightarrow Q) rightarrow ((Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R))$,
assume $(P rightarrow Q)$ and show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$.step 2 To show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$, assume $Q rightarrow R$ and then show $P rightarrow R$.
step 3 To show $P rightarrow R$, assume $P$ and then show $R$.
At each stage we're assuming something so by this last step we've assumed a whole bunch that can help us to show $R$.
Using $P$, assumed true from the last step and $Prightarrow Q$ assumed true from step 1, $Q$ follows, via modus ponens.
Using this $Q$ and $Qrightarrow R$ assumed true from step 2, $R$ follows, again via modus ponens.
And we're done. In short, a chain of implications unraveled from left to right.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
If you want a conceptual proof, you just need to know how to prove an implication. How do you prove $Arightarrow B$? Assume $A$ is true, then show that $B$ follows (hoping you have some other information laying around to do this using $A$.
Step 1 To show:
$(P rightarrow Q) rightarrow ((Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R))$,
assume $(P rightarrow Q)$ and show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$.step 2 To show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$, assume $Q rightarrow R$ and then show $P rightarrow R$.
step 3 To show $P rightarrow R$, assume $P$ and then show $R$.
At each stage we're assuming something so by this last step we've assumed a whole bunch that can help us to show $R$.
Using $P$, assumed true from the last step and $Prightarrow Q$ assumed true from step 1, $Q$ follows, via modus ponens.
Using this $Q$ and $Qrightarrow R$ assumed true from step 2, $R$ follows, again via modus ponens.
And we're done. In short, a chain of implications unraveled from left to right.
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If you want a conceptual proof, you just need to know how to prove an implication. How do you prove $Arightarrow B$? Assume $A$ is true, then show that $B$ follows (hoping you have some other information laying around to do this using $A$.
Step 1 To show:
$(P rightarrow Q) rightarrow ((Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R))$,
assume $(P rightarrow Q)$ and show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$.step 2 To show $(Q rightarrow R) rightarrow (P rightarrow R)$, assume $Q rightarrow R$ and then show $P rightarrow R$.
step 3 To show $P rightarrow R$, assume $P$ and then show $R$.
At each stage we're assuming something so by this last step we've assumed a whole bunch that can help us to show $R$.
Using $P$, assumed true from the last step and $Prightarrow Q$ assumed true from step 1, $Q$ follows, via modus ponens.
Using this $Q$ and $Qrightarrow R$ assumed true from step 2, $R$ follows, again via modus ponens.
And we're done. In short, a chain of implications unraveled from left to right.
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$ARightarrow B$ can be written as $neg Avee B.$ Therefore,
$$
(QRightarrow R)Rightarrow(PRightarrow R) \
=neg(neg Qvee R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (Q wedge neg R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R)wedge (neg P vee R vee neg R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R) \
= (neg P vee Q)vee R \
= (PRightarrow Q) vee R
$$
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$ARightarrow B$ can be written as $neg Avee B.$ Therefore,
$$
(QRightarrow R)Rightarrow(PRightarrow R) \
=neg(neg Qvee R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (Q wedge neg R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R)wedge (neg P vee R vee neg R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R) \
= (neg P vee Q)vee R \
= (PRightarrow Q) vee R
$$
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$ARightarrow B$ can be written as $neg Avee B.$ Therefore,
$$
(QRightarrow R)Rightarrow(PRightarrow R) \
=neg(neg Qvee R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (Q wedge neg R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R)wedge (neg P vee R vee neg R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R) \
= (neg P vee Q)vee R \
= (PRightarrow Q) vee R
$$
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$ARightarrow B$ can be written as $neg Avee B.$ Therefore,
$$
(QRightarrow R)Rightarrow(PRightarrow R) \
=neg(neg Qvee R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (Q wedge neg R)vee (neg Pvee R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R)wedge (neg P vee R vee neg R) \
= (neg P vee Qvee R) \
= (neg P vee Q)vee R \
= (PRightarrow Q) vee R
$$
answered 1 hour ago
Reinhard MeierReinhard Meier
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What is "R"? "P=> Q" says nothing about "R"! "P=> Q" does NOT say "if Q is true then R must be true". The conclusion says that "IF Q being true implies that some other statement R is true then P being true also implies that this "R" is true.
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Well because P is true Q must be true. Then we have Q => R and we know Q is true from previous assumption so therefore R is true. If R is true because of Q and Q is true because of P then R also must be true because of P
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