Why the “ls” command is showing the permissions of files in a FAT32 partition?












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I believe that the FAT32 file system does not support file permissions, however when I do ls -l on a FAT32 partition, ls -l shows that the files have permissions:



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Why is ls -l displaying the permissions of files?










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    I believe that the FAT32 file system does not support file permissions, however when I do ls -l on a FAT32 partition, ls -l shows that the files have permissions:



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    Why is ls -l displaying the permissions of files?










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      I believe that the FAT32 file system does not support file permissions, however when I do ls -l on a FAT32 partition, ls -l shows that the files have permissions:



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      -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 5 Mar 20 15:49 file2.txt


      Why is ls -l displaying the permissions of files?










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      -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 11 Mar 20 15:43 file1.txt
      -rw-r--r-- 1 john john 5 Mar 20 15:49 file2.txt


      Why is ls -l displaying the permissions of files?







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          The filesystem as stored on disk doesn't store file permissions, but the filesystem driver has to provide them to the operating system since they are an integral part of the Unix filesystem concept(*).



          So, the driver fakes some permissions, same ones for all files. The permissions along with the files' owner and group are configurable at mount time. See "Mount options for fat" in the mount(8) man page.



          (* Consider what would happen if a file didn't have any permission bits at all? Would it be the same as 0777, i.e. access to all; or the same as 0000, i.e. no access to anyone? But both of those are file permissions, so why not show them? Or do something more useful and set some sensible permissions.)






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            The filesystem as stored on disk doesn't store file permissions, but the filesystem driver has to provide them to the operating system since they are an integral part of the Unix filesystem concept(*).



            So, the driver fakes some permissions, same ones for all files. The permissions along with the files' owner and group are configurable at mount time. See "Mount options for fat" in the mount(8) man page.



            (* Consider what would happen if a file didn't have any permission bits at all? Would it be the same as 0777, i.e. access to all; or the same as 0000, i.e. no access to anyone? But both of those are file permissions, so why not show them? Or do something more useful and set some sensible permissions.)






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              The filesystem as stored on disk doesn't store file permissions, but the filesystem driver has to provide them to the operating system since they are an integral part of the Unix filesystem concept(*).



              So, the driver fakes some permissions, same ones for all files. The permissions along with the files' owner and group are configurable at mount time. See "Mount options for fat" in the mount(8) man page.



              (* Consider what would happen if a file didn't have any permission bits at all? Would it be the same as 0777, i.e. access to all; or the same as 0000, i.e. no access to anyone? But both of those are file permissions, so why not show them? Or do something more useful and set some sensible permissions.)






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                The filesystem as stored on disk doesn't store file permissions, but the filesystem driver has to provide them to the operating system since they are an integral part of the Unix filesystem concept(*).



                So, the driver fakes some permissions, same ones for all files. The permissions along with the files' owner and group are configurable at mount time. See "Mount options for fat" in the mount(8) man page.



                (* Consider what would happen if a file didn't have any permission bits at all? Would it be the same as 0777, i.e. access to all; or the same as 0000, i.e. no access to anyone? But both of those are file permissions, so why not show them? Or do something more useful and set some sensible permissions.)






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                The filesystem as stored on disk doesn't store file permissions, but the filesystem driver has to provide them to the operating system since they are an integral part of the Unix filesystem concept(*).



                So, the driver fakes some permissions, same ones for all files. The permissions along with the files' owner and group are configurable at mount time. See "Mount options for fat" in the mount(8) man page.



                (* Consider what would happen if a file didn't have any permission bits at all? Would it be the same as 0777, i.e. access to all; or the same as 0000, i.e. no access to anyone? But both of those are file permissions, so why not show them? Or do something more useful and set some sensible permissions.)







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