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So, this extraordinary claim has been getting a lot of publicity lately:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKrfGCd7I8




They say a wall is medieval, well so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked, and every car out there, even the really expensive ones the secret service use. And believe me, they are expensive. I said "do they all have wheels?". "Yes". "Oh, I thought it was medieval." The wheel is older than the wall, you know that?



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I'm pretty sure I know about this, but was the wall invented before, or after the wheel?










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    @Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

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So, this extraordinary claim has been getting a lot of publicity lately:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKrfGCd7I8




They say a wall is medieval, well so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked, and every car out there, even the really expensive ones the secret service use. And believe me, they are expensive. I said "do they all have wheels?". "Yes". "Oh, I thought it was medieval." The wheel is older than the wall, you know that?



Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States of America




I'm pretty sure I know about this, but was the wall invented before, or after the wheel?










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  • Also, the OP added quotes for the exchange between Trump and some other party. It could be that the last sentence is Trump quoting the OTHER party's statement. Are you sure you quoted correctly? Should there potentially be quotes around the last sentence?

    – Keeta
    13 hours ago






  • 2





    @Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

    – AJFaraday
    13 hours ago











  • Let us continue this discussion in chat.

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    12 hours ago














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So, this extraordinary claim has been getting a lot of publicity lately:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKrfGCd7I8




They say a wall is medieval, well so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked, and every car out there, even the really expensive ones the secret service use. And believe me, they are expensive. I said "do they all have wheels?". "Yes". "Oh, I thought it was medieval." The wheel is older than the wall, you know that?



Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States of America




I'm pretty sure I know about this, but was the wall invented before, or after the wheel?










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So, this extraordinary claim has been getting a lot of publicity lately:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQKrfGCd7I8




They say a wall is medieval, well so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked, and every car out there, even the really expensive ones the secret service use. And believe me, they are expensive. I said "do they all have wheels?". "Yes". "Oh, I thought it was medieval." The wheel is older than the wall, you know that?



Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States of America




I'm pretty sure I know about this, but was the wall invented before, or after the wheel?







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  • Also, the OP added quotes for the exchange between Trump and some other party. It could be that the last sentence is Trump quoting the OTHER party's statement. Are you sure you quoted correctly? Should there potentially be quotes around the last sentence?

    – Keeta
    13 hours ago






  • 2





    @Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

    – AJFaraday
    13 hours ago











  • Let us continue this discussion in chat.

    – AJFaraday
    12 hours ago



















  • Also, the OP added quotes for the exchange between Trump and some other party. It could be that the last sentence is Trump quoting the OTHER party's statement. Are you sure you quoted correctly? Should there potentially be quotes around the last sentence?

    – Keeta
    13 hours ago






  • 2





    @Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

    – AJFaraday
    13 hours ago











  • Let us continue this discussion in chat.

    – AJFaraday
    12 hours ago

















Also, the OP added quotes for the exchange between Trump and some other party. It could be that the last sentence is Trump quoting the OTHER party's statement. Are you sure you quoted correctly? Should there potentially be quotes around the last sentence?

– Keeta
13 hours ago





Also, the OP added quotes for the exchange between Trump and some other party. It could be that the last sentence is Trump quoting the OTHER party's statement. Are you sure you quoted correctly? Should there potentially be quotes around the last sentence?

– Keeta
13 hours ago




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@Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

– AJFaraday
13 hours ago





@Keeta See video link. The quotes are mine, as he is recounting a presumably imaginary conversation with an unknown party. Do note, in the quote, that he both begins and ends the statement with the same claim.

– AJFaraday
13 hours ago













Let us continue this discussion in chat.

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Let us continue this discussion in chat.

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No, walls predate wheels by several millenia.



The invention of the wheel is generally placed at around 3500-4500 BCE. However walls were famously built around the town of Jericho in 8000-9000BCE.



More information can be found here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/president-trump-is-wheel-older-than-wall/2539339002/





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    Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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    @Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

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    I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

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    @MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

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    Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

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I've upvoted DJClayworth's answer because I think it's better than the one I'm supplying. And, his answer actually answers the question.



But I'm leaving an answer of my own as a frame challenge. I do think that the question might be overly concrete, but only because it's responding to an overly-literal definition of "medieval" in the opening quote from the YouTube video. Yes, medieval can mean "from to the middle ages." But it ALSO means "old fashioned," "unenlightened," "primitive," "cruel," "antiquated," or merely "in the style of the middle ages." (See https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medieval; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/medieval; https://www.thefreedictionary.com/medieval).



Because this question was asked on "Skeptics" Stack Exchange (rather than "History" Stack Exchange), and it because it was asked in the context of a particular quote, the original post might be seen as an inquiry into the validity of the premises of the quote. I'm providing this answer in case it may also contribute to an understanding of the validity of the premises of the quote.



If the critics of the wall were using "medieval" to refer to "the age of the technology," then the question of which came first, the wall or the wheel, is relevant to the integrity of the quote's argument. But that seems doubtful to me since walls were in use long before the Middle Ages. But if they were using "medieval" to refer to aesthetics reminiscent of the middle ages, then whether the wall of the wheel came first becomes more of a red herring.






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  • @AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

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    The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

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  • Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

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  • At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

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No, walls predate wheels by several millenia.



The invention of the wheel is generally placed at around 3500-4500 BCE. However walls were famously built around the town of Jericho in 8000-9000BCE.



More information can be found here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/president-trump-is-wheel-older-than-wall/2539339002/





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    Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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    @Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

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    I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

    – Mason Wheeler
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    @MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

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    Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

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No, walls predate wheels by several millenia.



The invention of the wheel is generally placed at around 3500-4500 BCE. However walls were famously built around the town of Jericho in 8000-9000BCE.



More information can be found here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/president-trump-is-wheel-older-than-wall/2539339002/





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    Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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    @Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

    – Kevin
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    I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

    – Mason Wheeler
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    @MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

    – Barmar
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No, walls predate wheels by several millenia.



The invention of the wheel is generally placed at around 3500-4500 BCE. However walls were famously built around the town of Jericho in 8000-9000BCE.



More information can be found here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/president-trump-is-wheel-older-than-wall/2539339002/





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No, walls predate wheels by several millenia.



The invention of the wheel is generally placed at around 3500-4500 BCE. However walls were famously built around the town of Jericho in 8000-9000BCE.



More information can be found here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/10/president-trump-is-wheel-older-than-wall/2539339002/






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    Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

    – Barmar
    12 hours ago






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    @Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

    – Kevin
    12 hours ago






  • 12





    I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

    – Mason Wheeler
    12 hours ago






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    @MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

    – Barmar
    12 hours ago






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    Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

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    Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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    @Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

    – Kevin
    12 hours ago






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    I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

    – Mason Wheeler
    12 hours ago






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    @MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

    – Barmar
    12 hours ago






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    Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

    – Pete Kirkham
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Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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Was the wall actually "invented"? Caves have walls.

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@Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

– Kevin
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@Barmar: In this context, "wall" can be most reasonably interpreted to mean "artificial wall."

– Kevin
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I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

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I was unaware that the building of the Walls of Jericho was a famous event. Usually what you hear about is them coming down.

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@MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

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@MasonWheeler I think it's the walls themselves that are famous. And they had to be built in order to be knocked down.

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Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

– Pete Kirkham
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Depending on your definition of wall, you can go much earlier than that - newscientist.com/article/… - circles with loose walls of broken stones 175,000 years ago

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I've upvoted DJClayworth's answer because I think it's better than the one I'm supplying. And, his answer actually answers the question.



But I'm leaving an answer of my own as a frame challenge. I do think that the question might be overly concrete, but only because it's responding to an overly-literal definition of "medieval" in the opening quote from the YouTube video. Yes, medieval can mean "from to the middle ages." But it ALSO means "old fashioned," "unenlightened," "primitive," "cruel," "antiquated," or merely "in the style of the middle ages." (See https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medieval; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/medieval; https://www.thefreedictionary.com/medieval).



Because this question was asked on "Skeptics" Stack Exchange (rather than "History" Stack Exchange), and it because it was asked in the context of a particular quote, the original post might be seen as an inquiry into the validity of the premises of the quote. I'm providing this answer in case it may also contribute to an understanding of the validity of the premises of the quote.



If the critics of the wall were using "medieval" to refer to "the age of the technology," then the question of which came first, the wall or the wheel, is relevant to the integrity of the quote's argument. But that seems doubtful to me since walls were in use long before the Middle Ages. But if they were using "medieval" to refer to aesthetics reminiscent of the middle ages, then whether the wall of the wheel came first becomes more of a red herring.






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  • @AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

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    The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

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  • Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

    – Barmar
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  • At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

    – Mazura
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I've upvoted DJClayworth's answer because I think it's better than the one I'm supplying. And, his answer actually answers the question.



But I'm leaving an answer of my own as a frame challenge. I do think that the question might be overly concrete, but only because it's responding to an overly-literal definition of "medieval" in the opening quote from the YouTube video. Yes, medieval can mean "from to the middle ages." But it ALSO means "old fashioned," "unenlightened," "primitive," "cruel," "antiquated," or merely "in the style of the middle ages." (See https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medieval; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/medieval; https://www.thefreedictionary.com/medieval).



Because this question was asked on "Skeptics" Stack Exchange (rather than "History" Stack Exchange), and it because it was asked in the context of a particular quote, the original post might be seen as an inquiry into the validity of the premises of the quote. I'm providing this answer in case it may also contribute to an understanding of the validity of the premises of the quote.



If the critics of the wall were using "medieval" to refer to "the age of the technology," then the question of which came first, the wall or the wheel, is relevant to the integrity of the quote's argument. But that seems doubtful to me since walls were in use long before the Middle Ages. But if they were using "medieval" to refer to aesthetics reminiscent of the middle ages, then whether the wall of the wheel came first becomes more of a red herring.






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  • @AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

    – Randall Stewart
    6 hours ago






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    The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago











  • Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

    – Barmar
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  • At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

    – Mazura
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I've upvoted DJClayworth's answer because I think it's better than the one I'm supplying. And, his answer actually answers the question.



But I'm leaving an answer of my own as a frame challenge. I do think that the question might be overly concrete, but only because it's responding to an overly-literal definition of "medieval" in the opening quote from the YouTube video. Yes, medieval can mean "from to the middle ages." But it ALSO means "old fashioned," "unenlightened," "primitive," "cruel," "antiquated," or merely "in the style of the middle ages." (See https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medieval; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/medieval; https://www.thefreedictionary.com/medieval).



Because this question was asked on "Skeptics" Stack Exchange (rather than "History" Stack Exchange), and it because it was asked in the context of a particular quote, the original post might be seen as an inquiry into the validity of the premises of the quote. I'm providing this answer in case it may also contribute to an understanding of the validity of the premises of the quote.



If the critics of the wall were using "medieval" to refer to "the age of the technology," then the question of which came first, the wall or the wheel, is relevant to the integrity of the quote's argument. But that seems doubtful to me since walls were in use long before the Middle Ages. But if they were using "medieval" to refer to aesthetics reminiscent of the middle ages, then whether the wall of the wheel came first becomes more of a red herring.






share|improve this answer















I've upvoted DJClayworth's answer because I think it's better than the one I'm supplying. And, his answer actually answers the question.



But I'm leaving an answer of my own as a frame challenge. I do think that the question might be overly concrete, but only because it's responding to an overly-literal definition of "medieval" in the opening quote from the YouTube video. Yes, medieval can mean "from to the middle ages." But it ALSO means "old fashioned," "unenlightened," "primitive," "cruel," "antiquated," or merely "in the style of the middle ages." (See https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medieval; https://www.dictionary.com/browse/medieval; https://www.thefreedictionary.com/medieval).



Because this question was asked on "Skeptics" Stack Exchange (rather than "History" Stack Exchange), and it because it was asked in the context of a particular quote, the original post might be seen as an inquiry into the validity of the premises of the quote. I'm providing this answer in case it may also contribute to an understanding of the validity of the premises of the quote.



If the critics of the wall were using "medieval" to refer to "the age of the technology," then the question of which came first, the wall or the wheel, is relevant to the integrity of the quote's argument. But that seems doubtful to me since walls were in use long before the Middle Ages. But if they were using "medieval" to refer to aesthetics reminiscent of the middle ages, then whether the wall of the wheel came first becomes more of a red herring.







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  • I’ve downvoted this answer as it does not address the specific claim in the question, except to declare it an interesting question.

    – AJFaraday
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  • @AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

    – Randall Stewart
    6 hours ago






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    The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago











  • Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

    – Barmar
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  • At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

    – Mazura
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  • I’ve downvoted this answer as it does not address the specific claim in the question, except to declare it an interesting question.

    – AJFaraday
    6 hours ago











  • @AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

    – Randall Stewart
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

    – Kevin
    5 hours ago











  • Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

    – Barmar
    4 hours ago













  • At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

    – Mazura
    3 hours ago

















I’ve downvoted this answer as it does not address the specific claim in the question, except to declare it an interesting question.

– AJFaraday
6 hours ago





I’ve downvoted this answer as it does not address the specific claim in the question, except to declare it an interesting question.

– AJFaraday
6 hours ago













@AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

– Randall Stewart
6 hours ago





@AJFaraday. This answer was provided as a "frame challenge,"(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263661/…) which has historically been an acceptable way of answering questions on Stack Exchange. I've edited to post to make that more clear.

– Randall Stewart
6 hours ago




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The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

– Kevin
5 hours ago





The President said (twice) that wheels are "older than" walls. I fail to see how the definition of medieval has anything to do with that assertion.

– Kevin
5 hours ago













Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

– Barmar
4 hours ago







Also, the way "medieval" has been used in the statements that Trump was responding to seem to be the "antiquated" sense, not the "cruel" sense. See skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/43191/…

– Barmar
4 hours ago















At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

– Mazura
3 hours ago





At first I thought you were answering the medieval question.... And even though I want to DV this so bad, I can't because it's not "not useful". You're also right about why wouldn't anyone ask this question on History, unless they wanted to fart around with syntax: Define "wall". You mean like, The Great one? Uh... parts of it, maybe?

– Mazura
3 hours ago



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