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How to read property of X window non-client area (window manager's window)? I set X property by XChangeProperty in my C program. When using xprop and selecting non client area (I mean: titlebar of the window) by mouse, properties of window created by my application aren't displayed.
I tested both cases. When using xprop 8s name_of_non_registered_property and xprop 8s name_of_registered_property message is different, so I correctry create XAtom.



I test xprop only on Plasma5.15 (KWin working under X.org)



I'm mixing GTK+2 and XCB (or XLib) code. When using XListProperty, XGetAtomName on elements from previous call to previous function and result of XGetAtomName put to puts (C stdlib), name of my atom is visible. Maybe GTK mess, when invoking main loop first time? I realize the window before add my property to it.



I think, that rather programming problem than system.



> xwininfo -all -root
....
0xba00001 "program": ("program" "Program") 10x10+10+10 +10+10
1 child:
0xba00002 (has no name): () 1x1+-1+-1 +9+9
...
>xprop -id 0xba00001
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "program", "Program"
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { "program" }
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00002
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 29562975
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 25223
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "pl_PL.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "linux-rvnb"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
program specified size: 10 by 10
>xprop -id 0xba00002
>









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  • maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

    – mosvy
    Mar 5 at 9:11











  • Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 9:29













  • You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 10:39











  • This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

    – dirkt
    Mar 5 at 13:02











  • I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 13:46
















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How to read property of X window non-client area (window manager's window)? I set X property by XChangeProperty in my C program. When using xprop and selecting non client area (I mean: titlebar of the window) by mouse, properties of window created by my application aren't displayed.
I tested both cases. When using xprop 8s name_of_non_registered_property and xprop 8s name_of_registered_property message is different, so I correctry create XAtom.



I test xprop only on Plasma5.15 (KWin working under X.org)



I'm mixing GTK+2 and XCB (or XLib) code. When using XListProperty, XGetAtomName on elements from previous call to previous function and result of XGetAtomName put to puts (C stdlib), name of my atom is visible. Maybe GTK mess, when invoking main loop first time? I realize the window before add my property to it.



I think, that rather programming problem than system.



> xwininfo -all -root
....
0xba00001 "program": ("program" "Program") 10x10+10+10 +10+10
1 child:
0xba00002 (has no name): () 1x1+-1+-1 +9+9
...
>xprop -id 0xba00001
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "program", "Program"
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { "program" }
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00002
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 29562975
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 25223
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "pl_PL.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "linux-rvnb"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
program specified size: 10 by 10
>xprop -id 0xba00002
>









share|improve this question

























  • maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

    – mosvy
    Mar 5 at 9:11











  • Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 9:29













  • You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 10:39











  • This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

    – dirkt
    Mar 5 at 13:02











  • I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 13:46














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How to read property of X window non-client area (window manager's window)? I set X property by XChangeProperty in my C program. When using xprop and selecting non client area (I mean: titlebar of the window) by mouse, properties of window created by my application aren't displayed.
I tested both cases. When using xprop 8s name_of_non_registered_property and xprop 8s name_of_registered_property message is different, so I correctry create XAtom.



I test xprop only on Plasma5.15 (KWin working under X.org)



I'm mixing GTK+2 and XCB (or XLib) code. When using XListProperty, XGetAtomName on elements from previous call to previous function and result of XGetAtomName put to puts (C stdlib), name of my atom is visible. Maybe GTK mess, when invoking main loop first time? I realize the window before add my property to it.



I think, that rather programming problem than system.



> xwininfo -all -root
....
0xba00001 "program": ("program" "Program") 10x10+10+10 +10+10
1 child:
0xba00002 (has no name): () 1x1+-1+-1 +9+9
...
>xprop -id 0xba00001
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "program", "Program"
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { "program" }
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00002
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 29562975
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 25223
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "pl_PL.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "linux-rvnb"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
program specified size: 10 by 10
>xprop -id 0xba00002
>









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How to read property of X window non-client area (window manager's window)? I set X property by XChangeProperty in my C program. When using xprop and selecting non client area (I mean: titlebar of the window) by mouse, properties of window created by my application aren't displayed.
I tested both cases. When using xprop 8s name_of_non_registered_property and xprop 8s name_of_registered_property message is different, so I correctry create XAtom.



I test xprop only on Plasma5.15 (KWin working under X.org)



I'm mixing GTK+2 and XCB (or XLib) code. When using XListProperty, XGetAtomName on elements from previous call to previous function and result of XGetAtomName put to puts (C stdlib), name of my atom is visible. Maybe GTK mess, when invoking main loop first time? I realize the window before add my property to it.



I think, that rather programming problem than system.



> xwininfo -all -root
....
0xba00001 "program": ("program" "Program") 10x10+10+10 +10+10
1 child:
0xba00002 (has no name): () 1x1+-1+-1 +9+9
...
>xprop -id 0xba00001
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "program", "Program"
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { "program" }
_NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00002
_KDE_NET_WM_USER_CREATION_TIME(CARDINAL) = 29562975
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0xba00001
_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 25223
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "pl_PL.UTF-8"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "linux-rvnb"
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
program specified size: 10 by 10
>xprop -id 0xba00002
>






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  • maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

    – mosvy
    Mar 5 at 9:11











  • Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 9:29













  • You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 10:39











  • This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

    – dirkt
    Mar 5 at 13:02











  • I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 13:46



















  • maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

    – mosvy
    Mar 5 at 9:11











  • Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 9:29













  • You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 10:39











  • This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

    – dirkt
    Mar 5 at 13:02











  • I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 13:46

















maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

– mosvy
Mar 5 at 9:11





maybe you're not selecting the right window -- wm decorations like titlebars may themselves be subwindows of the the frame window you set your properties on. Anyways, post something reproducible; your question is not clear.

– mosvy
Mar 5 at 9:11













Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 9:29







Should I attach C code? That's not stack overflow.

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 9:29















You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

– ctx
Mar 5 at 10:39





You should add the output of the two xprop commands.

– ctx
Mar 5 at 10:39













This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

– dirkt
Mar 5 at 13:02





This sounds suspiciously like an XY problem. The non-client parts (e.g. title bar) are managed by the WM, they will be different for different WMs, so relying in any properties there will break as soon as the WM changes. Therefore I'm not surprised trying to get and set them runs into trouble (but what exactly happens probably also depends on the WM). What exactly are you trying to achieve by using properties on non-client areas? I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, there's a correct alternative way to do it.

– dirkt
Mar 5 at 13:02













I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 13:46





I will write app-integrated macro recorder. Possible a new design of such programs :-) . App register to window manager it's supports recording macro by setting atom on window and window manager will display dropdown menu with macro-related functions. User could click on first window, select start recording a new macro, set name. I next step he click on other window's titlebar and select attach to macro. Window manager will send XID or other information to daemon, which next asks app for window data (strings representing the state of window).

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 13:46










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This command prints all childrens:



xwininfo -all -root


Not all windowmanagers use the root window to show the backround. Clicking on a non client area will show infos about the window that displays the background. To show infos about the root window use:



xprop -root


If you correctly set an atom, xprop can read it. The format part in your xprop command is not necessary:



xprop name_of_registered_property


You might have to traverse all children to find the window with your atom.



If you're not coding the wm, you should ignore the titlebars. They are wm internals, not a client and they are probably not registered for events.






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  • Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 10:55






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    Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 11:02











  • I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

    – nintyfan
    Mar 7 at 10:39












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This command prints all childrens:



xwininfo -all -root


Not all windowmanagers use the root window to show the backround. Clicking on a non client area will show infos about the window that displays the background. To show infos about the root window use:



xprop -root


If you correctly set an atom, xprop can read it. The format part in your xprop command is not necessary:



xprop name_of_registered_property


You might have to traverse all children to find the window with your atom.



If you're not coding the wm, you should ignore the titlebars. They are wm internals, not a client and they are probably not registered for events.






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  • Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 10:55






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    Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 11:02











  • I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

    – nintyfan
    Mar 7 at 10:39
















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This command prints all childrens:



xwininfo -all -root


Not all windowmanagers use the root window to show the backround. Clicking on a non client area will show infos about the window that displays the background. To show infos about the root window use:



xprop -root


If you correctly set an atom, xprop can read it. The format part in your xprop command is not necessary:



xprop name_of_registered_property


You might have to traverse all children to find the window with your atom.



If you're not coding the wm, you should ignore the titlebars. They are wm internals, not a client and they are probably not registered for events.






share|improve this answer


























  • Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 10:55






  • 1





    Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 11:02











  • I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

    – nintyfan
    Mar 7 at 10:39














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This command prints all childrens:



xwininfo -all -root


Not all windowmanagers use the root window to show the backround. Clicking on a non client area will show infos about the window that displays the background. To show infos about the root window use:



xprop -root


If you correctly set an atom, xprop can read it. The format part in your xprop command is not necessary:



xprop name_of_registered_property


You might have to traverse all children to find the window with your atom.



If you're not coding the wm, you should ignore the titlebars. They are wm internals, not a client and they are probably not registered for events.






share|improve this answer















This command prints all childrens:



xwininfo -all -root


Not all windowmanagers use the root window to show the backround. Clicking on a non client area will show infos about the window that displays the background. To show infos about the root window use:



xprop -root


If you correctly set an atom, xprop can read it. The format part in your xprop command is not necessary:



xprop name_of_registered_property


You might have to traverse all children to find the window with your atom.



If you're not coding the wm, you should ignore the titlebars. They are wm internals, not a client and they are probably not registered for events.







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  • Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 10:55






  • 1





    Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 11:02











  • I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

    – nintyfan
    Mar 7 at 10:39



















  • Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

    – nintyfan
    Mar 5 at 10:55






  • 1





    Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

    – ctx
    Mar 5 at 11:02











  • I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

    – nintyfan
    Mar 7 at 10:39

















Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 10:55





Thanks. By writing non-client area I mean titlebar.

– nintyfan
Mar 5 at 10:55




1




1





Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

– ctx
Mar 5 at 11:02





Please add this information to your question. Since the titlebar is createt by your windowmanager, you should add which wm/de you use too.

– ctx
Mar 5 at 11:02













I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

– nintyfan
Mar 7 at 10:39





I will add some info: Use xwininfo -all -root, read the id of child of window using parent's window title. Use xprop -id hexadecimal number present in xwininfo output

– nintyfan
Mar 7 at 10:39


















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