Should I tutor a student who I know has cheated on their homework?
I am a Ph.D. student and I do private tutoring on the side for extra income. Recently a new student contacted me for help with a class, and I met them for one session, which went well overall. They told me they liked my tutoring and want to meet again. This student admitted that they are behind on the course material and are trying to catch up before the final (which is just about two weeks away). However, I recently realized that this same student is in another class which I am TA'ing, and I was grading the homework today and realized they copied the solutions for the last assignment. I had suspected they may have copied solutions to the previous assignment as well but was unsure. This time the copying is blatant, word for word from the solutions from a past year. At this point I have no choice but to bring this to the course instructor (who is also my advisor), who I know will report this student for plagiarism. My question is, should I still meet this student and tutor them in other classes?
A few thoughts that come to mind:
- I now know this student is in the course I am TA'ing. I feel tutoring them for this course would be a conflict of interest, and I would have to clear it with my advisor. Is it also a conflict of interest to tutor them for a different course, knowing I will be grading their exam/homework for this one?
- I enjoy tutoring because I enjoy helping students learn, and I do like to help people succeed. In our previous session this student seemed interested in actually learning, but clearly has shown that they are willing to blatantly plagiarise homework solutions. While I do rely on my extra tutoring income, it feels unethical to tutor someone who cheats. At the same time, I would like them to be able to understand what they are doing so they don't feel any need to cheat. But this student also said they have not attended class in recent weeks (for what reason I do not know).
- If I meet this student again, I will have to tell them that I have reported them for academic dishonesty. This isn't exactly an issue though, they can decide what they want to do from there.
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I am a Ph.D. student and I do private tutoring on the side for extra income. Recently a new student contacted me for help with a class, and I met them for one session, which went well overall. They told me they liked my tutoring and want to meet again. This student admitted that they are behind on the course material and are trying to catch up before the final (which is just about two weeks away). However, I recently realized that this same student is in another class which I am TA'ing, and I was grading the homework today and realized they copied the solutions for the last assignment. I had suspected they may have copied solutions to the previous assignment as well but was unsure. This time the copying is blatant, word for word from the solutions from a past year. At this point I have no choice but to bring this to the course instructor (who is also my advisor), who I know will report this student for plagiarism. My question is, should I still meet this student and tutor them in other classes?
A few thoughts that come to mind:
- I now know this student is in the course I am TA'ing. I feel tutoring them for this course would be a conflict of interest, and I would have to clear it with my advisor. Is it also a conflict of interest to tutor them for a different course, knowing I will be grading their exam/homework for this one?
- I enjoy tutoring because I enjoy helping students learn, and I do like to help people succeed. In our previous session this student seemed interested in actually learning, but clearly has shown that they are willing to blatantly plagiarise homework solutions. While I do rely on my extra tutoring income, it feels unethical to tutor someone who cheats. At the same time, I would like them to be able to understand what they are doing so they don't feel any need to cheat. But this student also said they have not attended class in recent weeks (for what reason I do not know).
- If I meet this student again, I will have to tell them that I have reported them for academic dishonesty. This isn't exactly an issue though, they can decide what they want to do from there.
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Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
3
To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
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Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
2 hours ago
@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago
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I am a Ph.D. student and I do private tutoring on the side for extra income. Recently a new student contacted me for help with a class, and I met them for one session, which went well overall. They told me they liked my tutoring and want to meet again. This student admitted that they are behind on the course material and are trying to catch up before the final (which is just about two weeks away). However, I recently realized that this same student is in another class which I am TA'ing, and I was grading the homework today and realized they copied the solutions for the last assignment. I had suspected they may have copied solutions to the previous assignment as well but was unsure. This time the copying is blatant, word for word from the solutions from a past year. At this point I have no choice but to bring this to the course instructor (who is also my advisor), who I know will report this student for plagiarism. My question is, should I still meet this student and tutor them in other classes?
A few thoughts that come to mind:
- I now know this student is in the course I am TA'ing. I feel tutoring them for this course would be a conflict of interest, and I would have to clear it with my advisor. Is it also a conflict of interest to tutor them for a different course, knowing I will be grading their exam/homework for this one?
- I enjoy tutoring because I enjoy helping students learn, and I do like to help people succeed. In our previous session this student seemed interested in actually learning, but clearly has shown that they are willing to blatantly plagiarise homework solutions. While I do rely on my extra tutoring income, it feels unethical to tutor someone who cheats. At the same time, I would like them to be able to understand what they are doing so they don't feel any need to cheat. But this student also said they have not attended class in recent weeks (for what reason I do not know).
- If I meet this student again, I will have to tell them that I have reported them for academic dishonesty. This isn't exactly an issue though, they can decide what they want to do from there.
phd ethics teaching-assistant cheating tutoring
I am a Ph.D. student and I do private tutoring on the side for extra income. Recently a new student contacted me for help with a class, and I met them for one session, which went well overall. They told me they liked my tutoring and want to meet again. This student admitted that they are behind on the course material and are trying to catch up before the final (which is just about two weeks away). However, I recently realized that this same student is in another class which I am TA'ing, and I was grading the homework today and realized they copied the solutions for the last assignment. I had suspected they may have copied solutions to the previous assignment as well but was unsure. This time the copying is blatant, word for word from the solutions from a past year. At this point I have no choice but to bring this to the course instructor (who is also my advisor), who I know will report this student for plagiarism. My question is, should I still meet this student and tutor them in other classes?
A few thoughts that come to mind:
- I now know this student is in the course I am TA'ing. I feel tutoring them for this course would be a conflict of interest, and I would have to clear it with my advisor. Is it also a conflict of interest to tutor them for a different course, knowing I will be grading their exam/homework for this one?
- I enjoy tutoring because I enjoy helping students learn, and I do like to help people succeed. In our previous session this student seemed interested in actually learning, but clearly has shown that they are willing to blatantly plagiarise homework solutions. While I do rely on my extra tutoring income, it feels unethical to tutor someone who cheats. At the same time, I would like them to be able to understand what they are doing so they don't feel any need to cheat. But this student also said they have not attended class in recent weeks (for what reason I do not know).
- If I meet this student again, I will have to tell them that I have reported them for academic dishonesty. This isn't exactly an issue though, they can decide what they want to do from there.
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Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
3
To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
1
Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
2 hours ago
@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago
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6
Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
3
To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
1
Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
2 hours ago
@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago
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6
Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
3
3
To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
1
1
Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
2 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
2 hours ago
@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago
@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago
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Whether their cheating should impact your role as a tutor is not the primary issue here, so I'll set it aside.
You should not be tutoring a student for money in one course that you are also grading as a TA in another course. That sets up a financial relationship between a grader and a student. That's a big problem.
I certainly don't believe you've done anything unethical here, but you should most likely report the inadvertent conflict and stop tutoring this student immediately (I'd also offer to your superiors that you return any payment for the one session, or just do it yourself anyways). It's not a big deal that you did this accidentally not realizing the connection. It could be a problem if you continued with it now that you know.
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Stop tutoring him. He's already shown he doesn't play by the rules. And this situation may "go sideways". Disengage ASAP. You don't want to get more enmeshed in this than you already unfortunately are. Things can rebound and hurt you. (Danger, Will Robinson, danger.)
Tutoring is very much a side gig and completely optional for both parties. Disagree with the Buffy advice that you are obligated to continue. I also agree with Bryan's comment about the conflict of interest even without cheating. But I think the cheating situation raises the conflict of interest front and center.
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-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
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I mostly agree with @BryanKrauze's answer, but I'll strength the point further:
- It is unethical to tutor a student whom you are also teaching and grading.
- It is doubly unethical if you're tutoring him/her for pay.
In both cases you are in a conflict of interests, and in the latter case it is very significant.
But since you're already conflicted, it's possible that it makes more sense for you to stop grading his HW (while continuing as a TA) rather than to stop tutoring him. I'd consult with the principal teacher for the course, or whoever is in charge of teaching in your department etc. - perhaps mention both options (not tutor him, not grade him). You might also need to have your previous gradings of his assignments reviewed.
Finally, if you stop tutoring him, be kind - despite his cheating - and try to find an alternative tutor to take over for you, if you can, so that he can make a smooth transition. This is regardless of whether he is treated harshly or not for his cheating on a HW assignment in another course!
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Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
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I don't believe you have an ethical issue in tutoring them. In fact, there may be issues if you don't. But otherwise, you seem to be doing the correct thing in communicating with the professor and telling the student about what you have done. It won't make you popular, of course.
But, if you can help them learn and, more important, learn how to learn, maybe they won't be as inclined to cut corners.
I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another. Your professor, again, might have a different opinion, so you should ask. I don't think it is an especially difficult matter to keep the two relationships separate in a case like this.
Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course. I hope you have considered other explanations as well. Two identical papers is cause for an investigation, but not necessarily charges.
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I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
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@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
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Whether their cheating should impact your role as a tutor is not the primary issue here, so I'll set it aside.
You should not be tutoring a student for money in one course that you are also grading as a TA in another course. That sets up a financial relationship between a grader and a student. That's a big problem.
I certainly don't believe you've done anything unethical here, but you should most likely report the inadvertent conflict and stop tutoring this student immediately (I'd also offer to your superiors that you return any payment for the one session, or just do it yourself anyways). It's not a big deal that you did this accidentally not realizing the connection. It could be a problem if you continued with it now that you know.
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Whether their cheating should impact your role as a tutor is not the primary issue here, so I'll set it aside.
You should not be tutoring a student for money in one course that you are also grading as a TA in another course. That sets up a financial relationship between a grader and a student. That's a big problem.
I certainly don't believe you've done anything unethical here, but you should most likely report the inadvertent conflict and stop tutoring this student immediately (I'd also offer to your superiors that you return any payment for the one session, or just do it yourself anyways). It's not a big deal that you did this accidentally not realizing the connection. It could be a problem if you continued with it now that you know.
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Whether their cheating should impact your role as a tutor is not the primary issue here, so I'll set it aside.
You should not be tutoring a student for money in one course that you are also grading as a TA in another course. That sets up a financial relationship between a grader and a student. That's a big problem.
I certainly don't believe you've done anything unethical here, but you should most likely report the inadvertent conflict and stop tutoring this student immediately (I'd also offer to your superiors that you return any payment for the one session, or just do it yourself anyways). It's not a big deal that you did this accidentally not realizing the connection. It could be a problem if you continued with it now that you know.
Whether their cheating should impact your role as a tutor is not the primary issue here, so I'll set it aside.
You should not be tutoring a student for money in one course that you are also grading as a TA in another course. That sets up a financial relationship between a grader and a student. That's a big problem.
I certainly don't believe you've done anything unethical here, but you should most likely report the inadvertent conflict and stop tutoring this student immediately (I'd also offer to your superiors that you return any payment for the one session, or just do it yourself anyways). It's not a big deal that you did this accidentally not realizing the connection. It could be a problem if you continued with it now that you know.
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Stop tutoring him. He's already shown he doesn't play by the rules. And this situation may "go sideways". Disengage ASAP. You don't want to get more enmeshed in this than you already unfortunately are. Things can rebound and hurt you. (Danger, Will Robinson, danger.)
Tutoring is very much a side gig and completely optional for both parties. Disagree with the Buffy advice that you are obligated to continue. I also agree with Bryan's comment about the conflict of interest even without cheating. But I think the cheating situation raises the conflict of interest front and center.
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-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
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Stop tutoring him. He's already shown he doesn't play by the rules. And this situation may "go sideways". Disengage ASAP. You don't want to get more enmeshed in this than you already unfortunately are. Things can rebound and hurt you. (Danger, Will Robinson, danger.)
Tutoring is very much a side gig and completely optional for both parties. Disagree with the Buffy advice that you are obligated to continue. I also agree with Bryan's comment about the conflict of interest even without cheating. But I think the cheating situation raises the conflict of interest front and center.
New contributor
-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
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Stop tutoring him. He's already shown he doesn't play by the rules. And this situation may "go sideways". Disengage ASAP. You don't want to get more enmeshed in this than you already unfortunately are. Things can rebound and hurt you. (Danger, Will Robinson, danger.)
Tutoring is very much a side gig and completely optional for both parties. Disagree with the Buffy advice that you are obligated to continue. I also agree with Bryan's comment about the conflict of interest even without cheating. But I think the cheating situation raises the conflict of interest front and center.
New contributor
Stop tutoring him. He's already shown he doesn't play by the rules. And this situation may "go sideways". Disengage ASAP. You don't want to get more enmeshed in this than you already unfortunately are. Things can rebound and hurt you. (Danger, Will Robinson, danger.)
Tutoring is very much a side gig and completely optional for both parties. Disagree with the Buffy advice that you are obligated to continue. I also agree with Bryan's comment about the conflict of interest even without cheating. But I think the cheating situation raises the conflict of interest front and center.
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-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
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-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
-1 for several reasons: 1. Whether or not the student plays by the rules is not a reason for him not to be tutored. 2. If anything, getting a tutor means the student is trying to get his act together rather than continuing his "life of crime".
– einpoklum
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
This is so funny. Because he got a tutor, his same time frame cheating is changing? With that theory, I guess if I get a gym membership after buying roids, it shows I want to lift clean! Heck, if anything, I suspect that students that want/buy tutoring are (very, very mildly) correlated with students that cheat. (Or at least orthogonal. Definitely not anticorrelated.) After all, they need assistance.
– guest
6 hours ago
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I mostly agree with @BryanKrauze's answer, but I'll strength the point further:
- It is unethical to tutor a student whom you are also teaching and grading.
- It is doubly unethical if you're tutoring him/her for pay.
In both cases you are in a conflict of interests, and in the latter case it is very significant.
But since you're already conflicted, it's possible that it makes more sense for you to stop grading his HW (while continuing as a TA) rather than to stop tutoring him. I'd consult with the principal teacher for the course, or whoever is in charge of teaching in your department etc. - perhaps mention both options (not tutor him, not grade him). You might also need to have your previous gradings of his assignments reviewed.
Finally, if you stop tutoring him, be kind - despite his cheating - and try to find an alternative tutor to take over for you, if you can, so that he can make a smooth transition. This is regardless of whether he is treated harshly or not for his cheating on a HW assignment in another course!
1
Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
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I mostly agree with @BryanKrauze's answer, but I'll strength the point further:
- It is unethical to tutor a student whom you are also teaching and grading.
- It is doubly unethical if you're tutoring him/her for pay.
In both cases you are in a conflict of interests, and in the latter case it is very significant.
But since you're already conflicted, it's possible that it makes more sense for you to stop grading his HW (while continuing as a TA) rather than to stop tutoring him. I'd consult with the principal teacher for the course, or whoever is in charge of teaching in your department etc. - perhaps mention both options (not tutor him, not grade him). You might also need to have your previous gradings of his assignments reviewed.
Finally, if you stop tutoring him, be kind - despite his cheating - and try to find an alternative tutor to take over for you, if you can, so that he can make a smooth transition. This is regardless of whether he is treated harshly or not for his cheating on a HW assignment in another course!
1
Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I mostly agree with @BryanKrauze's answer, but I'll strength the point further:
- It is unethical to tutor a student whom you are also teaching and grading.
- It is doubly unethical if you're tutoring him/her for pay.
In both cases you are in a conflict of interests, and in the latter case it is very significant.
But since you're already conflicted, it's possible that it makes more sense for you to stop grading his HW (while continuing as a TA) rather than to stop tutoring him. I'd consult with the principal teacher for the course, or whoever is in charge of teaching in your department etc. - perhaps mention both options (not tutor him, not grade him). You might also need to have your previous gradings of his assignments reviewed.
Finally, if you stop tutoring him, be kind - despite his cheating - and try to find an alternative tutor to take over for you, if you can, so that he can make a smooth transition. This is regardless of whether he is treated harshly or not for his cheating on a HW assignment in another course!
I mostly agree with @BryanKrauze's answer, but I'll strength the point further:
- It is unethical to tutor a student whom you are also teaching and grading.
- It is doubly unethical if you're tutoring him/her for pay.
In both cases you are in a conflict of interests, and in the latter case it is very significant.
But since you're already conflicted, it's possible that it makes more sense for you to stop grading his HW (while continuing as a TA) rather than to stop tutoring him. I'd consult with the principal teacher for the course, or whoever is in charge of teaching in your department etc. - perhaps mention both options (not tutor him, not grade him). You might also need to have your previous gradings of his assignments reviewed.
Finally, if you stop tutoring him, be kind - despite his cheating - and try to find an alternative tutor to take over for you, if you can, so that he can make a smooth transition. This is regardless of whether he is treated harshly or not for his cheating on a HW assignment in another course!
edited 5 hours ago
answered 6 hours ago
einpoklumeinpoklum
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Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
1
1
Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
Let's see. You have one position that pays more, helps more people, and is a primary task. You have another that is self-sourced moonlighting. And in that one, you're tutoring a cheater. I vote for 86ing the cheater. Keep your regular TA gig.
– guest
6 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
@guest: I didn't suggest not being a TA, just refraining from grading that one particular student. Like in the case of, say, a family member taking a class that you teach.
– einpoklum
5 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
Never mind. youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I
– guest
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I don't believe you have an ethical issue in tutoring them. In fact, there may be issues if you don't. But otherwise, you seem to be doing the correct thing in communicating with the professor and telling the student about what you have done. It won't make you popular, of course.
But, if you can help them learn and, more important, learn how to learn, maybe they won't be as inclined to cut corners.
I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another. Your professor, again, might have a different opinion, so you should ask. I don't think it is an especially difficult matter to keep the two relationships separate in a case like this.
Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course. I hope you have considered other explanations as well. Two identical papers is cause for an investigation, but not necessarily charges.
7
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
2
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I don't believe you have an ethical issue in tutoring them. In fact, there may be issues if you don't. But otherwise, you seem to be doing the correct thing in communicating with the professor and telling the student about what you have done. It won't make you popular, of course.
But, if you can help them learn and, more important, learn how to learn, maybe they won't be as inclined to cut corners.
I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another. Your professor, again, might have a different opinion, so you should ask. I don't think it is an especially difficult matter to keep the two relationships separate in a case like this.
Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course. I hope you have considered other explanations as well. Two identical papers is cause for an investigation, but not necessarily charges.
7
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
2
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I don't believe you have an ethical issue in tutoring them. In fact, there may be issues if you don't. But otherwise, you seem to be doing the correct thing in communicating with the professor and telling the student about what you have done. It won't make you popular, of course.
But, if you can help them learn and, more important, learn how to learn, maybe they won't be as inclined to cut corners.
I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another. Your professor, again, might have a different opinion, so you should ask. I don't think it is an especially difficult matter to keep the two relationships separate in a case like this.
Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course. I hope you have considered other explanations as well. Two identical papers is cause for an investigation, but not necessarily charges.
I don't believe you have an ethical issue in tutoring them. In fact, there may be issues if you don't. But otherwise, you seem to be doing the correct thing in communicating with the professor and telling the student about what you have done. It won't make you popular, of course.
But, if you can help them learn and, more important, learn how to learn, maybe they won't be as inclined to cut corners.
I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another. Your professor, again, might have a different opinion, so you should ask. I don't think it is an especially difficult matter to keep the two relationships separate in a case like this.
Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course. I hope you have considered other explanations as well. Two identical papers is cause for an investigation, but not necessarily charges.
answered 10 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
55k16175268
55k16175268
7
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
2
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
add a comment |
7
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
2
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
7
7
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
I don't agree with this answer at all. "In fact, there may be issues if you don't." What? How could there be? "It won't make you popular, of course." What is that -- peer pressure? "I also doubt that tutoring them in one course is in conflict with TA-ing them in another." I feel strongly that it is, and probably the student should also ask university personnel about it -- just because the professor thinks it's okay doesn't mean others higher up in the university will too. A professor is not an ethics master.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
3
3
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
"Note that you haven't given the evidence that they copied in the other course." Yes, of course the OP did. What other explanation do you entertain for word for word copying from a previous year's solution sheet? Anyway, the OP is not the one who makes the ruling on academic dishonesty: they did the right thing by reporting it.
– Pete L. Clark
10 hours ago
2
2
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
@PeteL.Clark, I would still require more evidence. Was the "copying" a few words or a lot? Was it an obvious answer that has few ways of being stated or not? Was the "solution" itself copied from another source, such as a textbook? Why would a student copy from a published answer to a past question anyway? It makes little sense. And why would a question be asked in the next year when solutions were published in the previous one? I don't dispute that the student may be cheating, but I don't have the evidence, nor the rules applied. Neither do you.
– Buffy
7 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
Clear conflict-of-interest... "let's be real"...
– paul garrett
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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Run. This is toxic. You've already made a mistake that could get you into trouble. Go to your advisor or whoever oversees the TA's and tell him everything as soon as possible and before you communicate with this student again.
– B. Goddard
7 hours ago
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To paraphrase Dr. House, "everyone cheats".
– A Simple Algorithm
5 hours ago
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Perhaps with a decent tutor the student would have no need to cheat? IOW, do you want to be part of the solution or do you want to pile onto the problems the student already has? With that said, I agree with others that your grading this student's assignments/tests and accepting money from them at the same time is a major problem; so my 2 questions probably aren't very applicable directly to you.
– Dunk
5 hours ago
@Dunk I agree, the primary issue is the conflict of interest, if not for that then I likely would still agree to tutor this student.
– Kai
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@ASimpleAlgorithm I refuse to believe Mr. Rogers, Carl Sagan or Alex Trebek cheated at anything.
– user1717828
1 hour ago