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Short and sweet of it, I used to work as a manager/supervisor at a prior company that had us build various applications for them. I was there close to twenty years! In any event last year the company started struggling and things took a dive (upper management bickering, stock holders upset with the company, vision of company was no longer valid, competitors eating us alive, etc). One of my senior software engineers left prior to my departure and I eventually left as well.



I was able to quickly find a new home and a great place to work. Initially the old place kept asking me questions (I had to keep my phone number due to personal reasons) that were work related. It got to the point where each day they were asking 1-2 questions even after I left the company for three months. I got tired of it and finally told them I could no longer assist because I had my own priorities.



A few weeks back I actually hired another engineer that also worked at that prior company we both worked at. He too was tired of all the bickering, politics, and fallout from the board of directors and the ceo's. In any event, I hired him and he too is now getting contacted with more of their questions.



Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off? We have our own priorities and it is their problem now not ours!










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    Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

    – dwizum
    12 hours ago






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    Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

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    11 hours ago






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    You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

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    9 hours ago






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    Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

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    Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

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Short and sweet of it, I used to work as a manager/supervisor at a prior company that had us build various applications for them. I was there close to twenty years! In any event last year the company started struggling and things took a dive (upper management bickering, stock holders upset with the company, vision of company was no longer valid, competitors eating us alive, etc). One of my senior software engineers left prior to my departure and I eventually left as well.



I was able to quickly find a new home and a great place to work. Initially the old place kept asking me questions (I had to keep my phone number due to personal reasons) that were work related. It got to the point where each day they were asking 1-2 questions even after I left the company for three months. I got tired of it and finally told them I could no longer assist because I had my own priorities.



A few weeks back I actually hired another engineer that also worked at that prior company we both worked at. He too was tired of all the bickering, politics, and fallout from the board of directors and the ceo's. In any event, I hired him and he too is now getting contacted with more of their questions.



Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off? We have our own priorities and it is their problem now not ours!










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    Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

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    Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

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    You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

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    9 hours ago






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    Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

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    Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

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Short and sweet of it, I used to work as a manager/supervisor at a prior company that had us build various applications for them. I was there close to twenty years! In any event last year the company started struggling and things took a dive (upper management bickering, stock holders upset with the company, vision of company was no longer valid, competitors eating us alive, etc). One of my senior software engineers left prior to my departure and I eventually left as well.



I was able to quickly find a new home and a great place to work. Initially the old place kept asking me questions (I had to keep my phone number due to personal reasons) that were work related. It got to the point where each day they were asking 1-2 questions even after I left the company for three months. I got tired of it and finally told them I could no longer assist because I had my own priorities.



A few weeks back I actually hired another engineer that also worked at that prior company we both worked at. He too was tired of all the bickering, politics, and fallout from the board of directors and the ceo's. In any event, I hired him and he too is now getting contacted with more of their questions.



Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off? We have our own priorities and it is their problem now not ours!










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Short and sweet of it, I used to work as a manager/supervisor at a prior company that had us build various applications for them. I was there close to twenty years! In any event last year the company started struggling and things took a dive (upper management bickering, stock holders upset with the company, vision of company was no longer valid, competitors eating us alive, etc). One of my senior software engineers left prior to my departure and I eventually left as well.



I was able to quickly find a new home and a great place to work. Initially the old place kept asking me questions (I had to keep my phone number due to personal reasons) that were work related. It got to the point where each day they were asking 1-2 questions even after I left the company for three months. I got tired of it and finally told them I could no longer assist because I had my own priorities.



A few weeks back I actually hired another engineer that also worked at that prior company we both worked at. He too was tired of all the bickering, politics, and fallout from the board of directors and the ceo's. In any event, I hired him and he too is now getting contacted with more of their questions.



Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off? We have our own priorities and it is their problem now not ours!







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    Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

    – dwizum
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    Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

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    You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

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    Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

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    Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

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  • 52





    Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

    – dwizum
    12 hours ago






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    Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

    – joeqwerty
    11 hours ago






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    You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

    – only_pro
    9 hours ago






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    Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

    – zundi
    7 hours ago






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    Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

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Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

– dwizum
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Easy: stop answering their calls. If you inadvertently answer the phone and realized it's them, hang up. You've trained them to keep calling you by answering their questions for three months!

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Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

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Change your phone number. Get a new phone. Stop taking their calls. Tell them to stop calling you. All of these would be effective.

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You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

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You answered you own question. It is their problem now not yours. So you just ignore them—it's not your problem, like you said.

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Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

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Offer to consult for them, at an hourly rate that you can't say no to.

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Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

– Tas
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Do they call from the same phone number (like a business number) or are the individual engineers calling? Modern mobiles allow you to block numbers, and is far easier than changing your own number.

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Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off?




Just stop answering their questions.



Nothing says "bug off" quite like not giving answers to repeated questions.



You've trained them to continue to rely on you for help. This is your fault. Time to un-train them.






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    The most effective way is to tell them you charge X per hour for answering questions, and they need to give you an address where to send invoices.



    Having to explain your bill will stop most people from asking questions.






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      @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

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      @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

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      Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

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      I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

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    Your options are (multiple choice):




    • Tell them to stop calling


    • Ignore the calls


    • Block their numbers


    • Offer to consult for an exorbitant rate


    • Inform them you're going to request a no-contact order, if they find
      ways to go around your blocks or continue after you tell them to stop
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      Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

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    • @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

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    • You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

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      Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

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      If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

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    I've been on the other end of this, taking over for someone who left after building or implementing most of the systems I still use to this day.



    For the first few weeks, I was emailing or messaging him constantly. HE did a good job of NOT getting back to me instantly. He was NOT on-call. It gave me time to flail and learn and try to become self-sufficient, and I did slowly wean myself from his support. He also used the exorbitant consultant rate for actual projects we threw his way, until I had enough experience and knowledge built up that we no longer needed him for even that much.



    So, having been on the other side of the coin, I can say this: unless you left very clear instructions and processes and manuals, and basically made your leaving seamless, it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so.



    Obviously, situations vary, and your mileage may vary. If their requests are overly burdensome or aggressive, then just not answering (or maybe waiting a week/month and finally responding with "did you guys ever figure this out?" (but ONLY if you actually want to take it on, since they very likely did NOT figure this out! LOL!), just to keep the lines open just in case.)






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      I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

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    • "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

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      I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

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    What I haven't seen anyone address is that you say while YOU have stopped taking the calls they're contacting your subordinate. He needs to show tough love with them and tell them to stop calling. You need to make it clear to him that your expectation is that he not work for other companies while on the clock with you -- strongly encourage him to get tough.






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      Most of the times, nothing beats the simplicity.



      Refuse to help, just tell them you're busy. Say,




      I'd like you to help, but I got work to do. (Yes, your work, which gets you paid).




      If this calls keep coming, stop taking calls.



      At some point of time, you have to learn to say "no". The sooner, the better.






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        It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

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      Consider what your time is worth to you if you would work as a consultant for them.



      For most people, it's a matter of price - if the pay you for example 3000 $ a day for answering questions, you probably wouldn't mind too much (and that's not ludicrous- we pay that for some consultants). Find your sweet spot, add a bit, and seriously offer them to get in a contractual relationship as 'consultant'.

      This could end with you having a well paying job, or with them stopping to bother you - both should be solutions you'd be happy with.






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        Your coworker needs to bill the company for his continued assistance.



        He needs to select a consultancy rate which is not inappropriate for the skills and marketplace, e.g. $200/hr.



        When he gets a call he needs to document who he's talking to, what the problem is, collect the question(s) from the person if brief, otherwise ask them to send an email elucidating all their questions. Don't answer anything and be quick, especially if it's on your company's time.



        After he has gone home from the office and is on his own time, he should take on the questions seriously. Perhaps follow up with the person. Then he should "formally write-up" the answer in a sensible, presentable format, and email it to the person.



        Then, he looks at the total time spent on it, round up to the nearest increment of time that is not unreasonable, and send a bill to the company for consulting services net 10.*



        It is important this not consist of any "new work" but be confined to wrap-up and exit documentation, akin to an exit interview. He cannot be working for two companies in the same field at once. In fact if this goes very far at all, he needs to have a conversation with your current company's HR to resolve any conflict of interest, which there shouldn't be because it should be confined to discussion of work he already did.



        If it just gets him paid, awesome.



        It may also cause a little excitement, in which case, the next time they call, he says




        "Well, I'd love to help you, but the company seems reluctant to pay. Could you provide a PO number ** for this consultation?"




        Once he's past the 10 days (or whatever) of the first bill, when they call he immediately steers the conversation to the fact that their payment is late, and he needs to absolutely refuse to give any further help until it's paid. With luck, they'll be so in need of his assistance that they'll expedite payment, in which case, he has a nice little side business.





        * "Net 10 days" is a billing term, it means the bill should be paid pretty much as fast as checks can fly in the mail. It is customary in business. Don't use a longer billing term, or they could troll you for that long and collect free support in the meantime, just by being ambiguous about paying you. Other terms are "net 30" or "cash", the latter means you do not trust them to pay, and need to hear some credit card numbers right now.



        ** "PO number" expands to "Purchase Order number" which means you are asking them to create a Purchase Order for the goods or services. If he gives you a PO #, that's a verbal commitment that the company desires to buy this and will pay. Presumably he will be unable to do this.






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          The other answers talk about different ways to essentially either tell them "no" or to threaten them directly either with billing or no-contact orders.



          I think the simplest way is to just stop answering their questions. By answering their questions in the past you've essentially implied to them that its okay to bug you with questions because you've been helping them out for all this time.



          Stop responding to their calls/texts/messages/whatever. If you ignore them and the volume of contact increases or does not go away- then it turns into harassment and you will have to consider either blocking them or taking further actions to prevent them from bothering you during work.






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            Literally stop answering the phone to them.



            That's it.






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              This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

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            Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off?




            Just stop answering their questions.



            Nothing says "bug off" quite like not giving answers to repeated questions.



            You've trained them to continue to rely on you for help. This is your fault. Time to un-train them.






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              Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off?




              Just stop answering their questions.



              Nothing says "bug off" quite like not giving answers to repeated questions.



              You've trained them to continue to rely on you for help. This is your fault. Time to un-train them.






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                Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off?




                Just stop answering their questions.



                Nothing says "bug off" quite like not giving answers to repeated questions.



                You've trained them to continue to rely on you for help. This is your fault. Time to un-train them.






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                Is there anything I can do to simply tell them to bug off?




                Just stop answering their questions.



                Nothing says "bug off" quite like not giving answers to repeated questions.



                You've trained them to continue to rely on you for help. This is your fault. Time to un-train them.







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                    The most effective way is to tell them you charge X per hour for answering questions, and they need to give you an address where to send invoices.



                    Having to explain your bill will stop most people from asking questions.






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                      @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

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                      @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

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                      @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

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                      Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

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                      I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

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                    The most effective way is to tell them you charge X per hour for answering questions, and they need to give you an address where to send invoices.



                    Having to explain your bill will stop most people from asking questions.






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                      @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

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                      @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

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                      @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

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                      Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

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                      I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

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                    The most effective way is to tell them you charge X per hour for answering questions, and they need to give you an address where to send invoices.



                    Having to explain your bill will stop most people from asking questions.






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                    The most effective way is to tell them you charge X per hour for answering questions, and they need to give you an address where to send invoices.



                    Having to explain your bill will stop most people from asking questions.







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                      @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

                      – Acccumulation
                      11 hours ago






                    • 8





                      @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

                      – Denis de Bernardy
                      11 hours ago








                    • 2





                      @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

                      – Richard
                      8 hours ago








                    • 1





                      Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

                      – Darren H
                      6 hours ago














                    • 40





                      @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

                      – Acccumulation
                      11 hours ago






                    • 8





                      @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

                      – Denis de Bernardy
                      11 hours ago








                    • 2





                      @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

                      – Richard
                      8 hours ago








                    • 1





                      Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

                      – Darren H
                      6 hours ago








                    40




                    40





                    @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

                    – Acccumulation
                    11 hours ago





                    @BittermanAndy Choose X such that it's high enough that you're willing to deal with them for that much.

                    – Acccumulation
                    11 hours ago




                    8




                    8





                    @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

                    – Denis de Bernardy
                    11 hours ago







                    @BittermanAndy: smithsonianmag.com/history/… (Making chalk mark on generator $1. Knowing where to make mark $9,999.)

                    – Denis de Bernardy
                    11 hours ago






                    2




                    2





                    @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

                    – Richard
                    8 hours ago







                    @only_pro - No, the most effective way would be to scream obscenities down the phone at them.

                    – Richard
                    8 hours ago






                    1




                    1





                    Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

                    – Matthew Barber
                    8 hours ago





                    Getting cash in pocket might take the sting out of hearing from them too.

                    – Matthew Barber
                    8 hours ago




                    1




                    1





                    I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

                    – Darren H
                    6 hours ago





                    I agree with this answer as it makes your feeling clear without burning bridges unnecessarily. A nice round figure like $500/hr for work with a flat $200 fee per phone call should do the trick

                    – Darren H
                    6 hours ago











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                    Your options are (multiple choice):




                    • Tell them to stop calling


                    • Ignore the calls


                    • Block their numbers


                    • Offer to consult for an exorbitant rate


                    • Inform them you're going to request a no-contact order, if they find
                      ways to go around your blocks or continue after you tell them to stop
                      calling


                    • Actually request a no-contact order







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                      Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago











                    • @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                      – Havegooda
                      12 hours ago











                    • You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago






                    • 2





                      Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                      – Martin Bonner
                      9 hours ago






                    • 2





                      If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                      – rooby
                      8 hours ago
















                    25














                    Your options are (multiple choice):




                    • Tell them to stop calling


                    • Ignore the calls


                    • Block their numbers


                    • Offer to consult for an exorbitant rate


                    • Inform them you're going to request a no-contact order, if they find
                      ways to go around your blocks or continue after you tell them to stop
                      calling


                    • Actually request a no-contact order







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                      Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago











                    • @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                      – Havegooda
                      12 hours ago











                    • You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago






                    • 2





                      Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                      – Martin Bonner
                      9 hours ago






                    • 2





                      If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                      – rooby
                      8 hours ago














                    25












                    25








                    25







                    Your options are (multiple choice):




                    • Tell them to stop calling


                    • Ignore the calls


                    • Block their numbers


                    • Offer to consult for an exorbitant rate


                    • Inform them you're going to request a no-contact order, if they find
                      ways to go around your blocks or continue after you tell them to stop
                      calling


                    • Actually request a no-contact order







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                    Your options are (multiple choice):




                    • Tell them to stop calling


                    • Ignore the calls


                    • Block their numbers


                    • Offer to consult for an exorbitant rate


                    • Inform them you're going to request a no-contact order, if they find
                      ways to go around your blocks or continue after you tell them to stop
                      calling


                    • Actually request a no-contact order








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                    • 10





                      Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago











                    • @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                      – Havegooda
                      12 hours ago











                    • You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago






                    • 2





                      Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                      – Martin Bonner
                      9 hours ago






                    • 2





                      If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                      – rooby
                      8 hours ago














                    • 10





                      Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago











                    • @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                      – Havegooda
                      12 hours ago











                    • You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                      – Peter M
                      12 hours ago






                    • 2





                      Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                      – Martin Bonner
                      9 hours ago






                    • 2





                      If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                      – rooby
                      8 hours ago








                    10




                    10





                    Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                    – Peter M
                    12 hours ago





                    Personally I'd put "exorbitant rate" as number one. That establishes your position and tends to shut people down when you are asking 4x the going rate (and as a day rate - none of this by the question/hour stuff)

                    – Peter M
                    12 hours ago













                    @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                    – Havegooda
                    12 hours ago





                    @PeterM - The reason I didn't do that initially was because OP asked how to get them to stop. Offering to consult leaves the door open a crack. I only included it because I thought the same as you and hey...who doesn't like money?

                    – Havegooda
                    12 hours ago













                    You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                    – Peter M
                    12 hours ago





                    You can't make people do anything they don't want to do, but if the rate is high enough then they will decide for themselves not to continue with the calls. But yeah the risk is there that you will get the gig - and stupid money is great!

                    – Peter M
                    12 hours ago




                    2




                    2





                    Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    9 hours ago





                    Depending where you are (or, more precisely, on your employment contract - but what is common in an employment contract varies by region and industry), consulting may not be legal.

                    – Martin Bonner
                    9 hours ago




                    2




                    2





                    If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                    – rooby
                    8 hours ago





                    If you really don't want to be involved with them, be careful with the exorbitant rate option. Sometimes it's easy to think that the money would be worth it, then they accept your high rate and cause you stress and it's not worth it after all. Still, it's definitely an option worth considering in some cases.

                    – rooby
                    8 hours ago











                    6














                    I've been on the other end of this, taking over for someone who left after building or implementing most of the systems I still use to this day.



                    For the first few weeks, I was emailing or messaging him constantly. HE did a good job of NOT getting back to me instantly. He was NOT on-call. It gave me time to flail and learn and try to become self-sufficient, and I did slowly wean myself from his support. He also used the exorbitant consultant rate for actual projects we threw his way, until I had enough experience and knowledge built up that we no longer needed him for even that much.



                    So, having been on the other side of the coin, I can say this: unless you left very clear instructions and processes and manuals, and basically made your leaving seamless, it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so.



                    Obviously, situations vary, and your mileage may vary. If their requests are overly burdensome or aggressive, then just not answering (or maybe waiting a week/month and finally responding with "did you guys ever figure this out?" (but ONLY if you actually want to take it on, since they very likely did NOT figure this out! LOL!), just to keep the lines open just in case.)






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                      I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago











                    • "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                      – Robert Grant
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      5 hours ago


















                    6














                    I've been on the other end of this, taking over for someone who left after building or implementing most of the systems I still use to this day.



                    For the first few weeks, I was emailing or messaging him constantly. HE did a good job of NOT getting back to me instantly. He was NOT on-call. It gave me time to flail and learn and try to become self-sufficient, and I did slowly wean myself from his support. He also used the exorbitant consultant rate for actual projects we threw his way, until I had enough experience and knowledge built up that we no longer needed him for even that much.



                    So, having been on the other side of the coin, I can say this: unless you left very clear instructions and processes and manuals, and basically made your leaving seamless, it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so.



                    Obviously, situations vary, and your mileage may vary. If their requests are overly burdensome or aggressive, then just not answering (or maybe waiting a week/month and finally responding with "did you guys ever figure this out?" (but ONLY if you actually want to take it on, since they very likely did NOT figure this out! LOL!), just to keep the lines open just in case.)






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                    • 2





                      I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago











                    • "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                      – Robert Grant
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      5 hours ago
















                    6












                    6








                    6







                    I've been on the other end of this, taking over for someone who left after building or implementing most of the systems I still use to this day.



                    For the first few weeks, I was emailing or messaging him constantly. HE did a good job of NOT getting back to me instantly. He was NOT on-call. It gave me time to flail and learn and try to become self-sufficient, and I did slowly wean myself from his support. He also used the exorbitant consultant rate for actual projects we threw his way, until I had enough experience and knowledge built up that we no longer needed him for even that much.



                    So, having been on the other side of the coin, I can say this: unless you left very clear instructions and processes and manuals, and basically made your leaving seamless, it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so.



                    Obviously, situations vary, and your mileage may vary. If their requests are overly burdensome or aggressive, then just not answering (or maybe waiting a week/month and finally responding with "did you guys ever figure this out?" (but ONLY if you actually want to take it on, since they very likely did NOT figure this out! LOL!), just to keep the lines open just in case.)






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                    I've been on the other end of this, taking over for someone who left after building or implementing most of the systems I still use to this day.



                    For the first few weeks, I was emailing or messaging him constantly. HE did a good job of NOT getting back to me instantly. He was NOT on-call. It gave me time to flail and learn and try to become self-sufficient, and I did slowly wean myself from his support. He also used the exorbitant consultant rate for actual projects we threw his way, until I had enough experience and knowledge built up that we no longer needed him for even that much.



                    So, having been on the other side of the coin, I can say this: unless you left very clear instructions and processes and manuals, and basically made your leaving seamless, it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so.



                    Obviously, situations vary, and your mileage may vary. If their requests are overly burdensome or aggressive, then just not answering (or maybe waiting a week/month and finally responding with "did you guys ever figure this out?" (but ONLY if you actually want to take it on, since they very likely did NOT figure this out! LOL!), just to keep the lines open just in case.)







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                    • 2





                      I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago











                    • "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                      – Robert Grant
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      5 hours ago
















                    • 2





                      I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                      – Matthew Barber
                      8 hours ago











                    • "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                      – Robert Grant
                      8 hours ago






                    • 1





                      I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      5 hours ago










                    2




                    2





                    I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                    – Matthew Barber
                    8 hours ago





                    I think the key words there are "exorbitant consultant rate." Nobody should be getting free over-the-phone support once you've left.

                    – Matthew Barber
                    8 hours ago













                    "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                    – Robert Grant
                    8 hours ago





                    "it's not necessarily fair to assume that they aren't genuinely struggling without you. Even so, that in no way leaves you in the position of needing to prioritize their requests, especially if they're not paying you to do so" - or even answer the requests. Them struggling does not equal OP does free work.

                    – Robert Grant
                    8 hours ago




                    1




                    1





                    I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                    – Lightness Races in Orbit
                    5 hours ago







                    I completely understand that it can be a struggle for those left behind. Fortunately you seem to have come to understand that this is not to be made, in any way, the problem of those who left you behind. This has nothing to do with whether the requests are burdensome or not. It's simply inappropriate. Nobody who is not paid by that company for work that benefits that company should ever be expected to contribute to that company on their own time. It's literally as simple as that.

                    – Lightness Races in Orbit
                    5 hours ago













                    3














                    What I haven't seen anyone address is that you say while YOU have stopped taking the calls they're contacting your subordinate. He needs to show tough love with them and tell them to stop calling. You need to make it clear to him that your expectation is that he not work for other companies while on the clock with you -- strongly encourage him to get tough.






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                      What I haven't seen anyone address is that you say while YOU have stopped taking the calls they're contacting your subordinate. He needs to show tough love with them and tell them to stop calling. You need to make it clear to him that your expectation is that he not work for other companies while on the clock with you -- strongly encourage him to get tough.






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                        3







                        What I haven't seen anyone address is that you say while YOU have stopped taking the calls they're contacting your subordinate. He needs to show tough love with them and tell them to stop calling. You need to make it clear to him that your expectation is that he not work for other companies while on the clock with you -- strongly encourage him to get tough.






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                        What I haven't seen anyone address is that you say while YOU have stopped taking the calls they're contacting your subordinate. He needs to show tough love with them and tell them to stop calling. You need to make it clear to him that your expectation is that he not work for other companies while on the clock with you -- strongly encourage him to get tough.







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                        answered 12 hours ago









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                            Most of the times, nothing beats the simplicity.



                            Refuse to help, just tell them you're busy. Say,




                            I'd like you to help, but I got work to do. (Yes, your work, which gets you paid).




                            If this calls keep coming, stop taking calls.



                            At some point of time, you have to learn to say "no". The sooner, the better.






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                              It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

                              – BittermanAndy
                              12 hours ago
















                            1














                            Most of the times, nothing beats the simplicity.



                            Refuse to help, just tell them you're busy. Say,




                            I'd like you to help, but I got work to do. (Yes, your work, which gets you paid).




                            If this calls keep coming, stop taking calls.



                            At some point of time, you have to learn to say "no". The sooner, the better.






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                              It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

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                            Most of the times, nothing beats the simplicity.



                            Refuse to help, just tell them you're busy. Say,




                            I'd like you to help, but I got work to do. (Yes, your work, which gets you paid).




                            If this calls keep coming, stop taking calls.



                            At some point of time, you have to learn to say "no". The sooner, the better.






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                            Most of the times, nothing beats the simplicity.



                            Refuse to help, just tell them you're busy. Say,




                            I'd like you to help, but I got work to do. (Yes, your work, which gets you paid).




                            If this calls keep coming, stop taking calls.



                            At some point of time, you have to learn to say "no". The sooner, the better.







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                              It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

                              – BittermanAndy
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                              It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

                              – BittermanAndy
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                            It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

                            – BittermanAndy
                            12 hours ago





                            It would be more effective to say outright "No, I can't help". Firstly, it's actually saying the word "no", which (as you say) is needed. Secondly, giving reasons why the OP can't help encourages his former employer to try and find solutions to those reasons, e.g. offering to pay, which is not the desired outcome. Just say "no", nothing more.

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                            Consider what your time is worth to you if you would work as a consultant for them.



                            For most people, it's a matter of price - if the pay you for example 3000 $ a day for answering questions, you probably wouldn't mind too much (and that's not ludicrous- we pay that for some consultants). Find your sweet spot, add a bit, and seriously offer them to get in a contractual relationship as 'consultant'.

                            This could end with you having a well paying job, or with them stopping to bother you - both should be solutions you'd be happy with.






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                              Consider what your time is worth to you if you would work as a consultant for them.



                              For most people, it's a matter of price - if the pay you for example 3000 $ a day for answering questions, you probably wouldn't mind too much (and that's not ludicrous- we pay that for some consultants). Find your sweet spot, add a bit, and seriously offer them to get in a contractual relationship as 'consultant'.

                              This could end with you having a well paying job, or with them stopping to bother you - both should be solutions you'd be happy with.






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                                Consider what your time is worth to you if you would work as a consultant for them.



                                For most people, it's a matter of price - if the pay you for example 3000 $ a day for answering questions, you probably wouldn't mind too much (and that's not ludicrous- we pay that for some consultants). Find your sweet spot, add a bit, and seriously offer them to get in a contractual relationship as 'consultant'.

                                This could end with you having a well paying job, or with them stopping to bother you - both should be solutions you'd be happy with.






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                                Consider what your time is worth to you if you would work as a consultant for them.



                                For most people, it's a matter of price - if the pay you for example 3000 $ a day for answering questions, you probably wouldn't mind too much (and that's not ludicrous- we pay that for some consultants). Find your sweet spot, add a bit, and seriously offer them to get in a contractual relationship as 'consultant'.

                                This could end with you having a well paying job, or with them stopping to bother you - both should be solutions you'd be happy with.







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                                AganjuAganju

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                                    Your coworker needs to bill the company for his continued assistance.



                                    He needs to select a consultancy rate which is not inappropriate for the skills and marketplace, e.g. $200/hr.



                                    When he gets a call he needs to document who he's talking to, what the problem is, collect the question(s) from the person if brief, otherwise ask them to send an email elucidating all their questions. Don't answer anything and be quick, especially if it's on your company's time.



                                    After he has gone home from the office and is on his own time, he should take on the questions seriously. Perhaps follow up with the person. Then he should "formally write-up" the answer in a sensible, presentable format, and email it to the person.



                                    Then, he looks at the total time spent on it, round up to the nearest increment of time that is not unreasonable, and send a bill to the company for consulting services net 10.*



                                    It is important this not consist of any "new work" but be confined to wrap-up and exit documentation, akin to an exit interview. He cannot be working for two companies in the same field at once. In fact if this goes very far at all, he needs to have a conversation with your current company's HR to resolve any conflict of interest, which there shouldn't be because it should be confined to discussion of work he already did.



                                    If it just gets him paid, awesome.



                                    It may also cause a little excitement, in which case, the next time they call, he says




                                    "Well, I'd love to help you, but the company seems reluctant to pay. Could you provide a PO number ** for this consultation?"




                                    Once he's past the 10 days (or whatever) of the first bill, when they call he immediately steers the conversation to the fact that their payment is late, and he needs to absolutely refuse to give any further help until it's paid. With luck, they'll be so in need of his assistance that they'll expedite payment, in which case, he has a nice little side business.





                                    * "Net 10 days" is a billing term, it means the bill should be paid pretty much as fast as checks can fly in the mail. It is customary in business. Don't use a longer billing term, or they could troll you for that long and collect free support in the meantime, just by being ambiguous about paying you. Other terms are "net 30" or "cash", the latter means you do not trust them to pay, and need to hear some credit card numbers right now.



                                    ** "PO number" expands to "Purchase Order number" which means you are asking them to create a Purchase Order for the goods or services. If he gives you a PO #, that's a verbal commitment that the company desires to buy this and will pay. Presumably he will be unable to do this.






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                                      Your coworker needs to bill the company for his continued assistance.



                                      He needs to select a consultancy rate which is not inappropriate for the skills and marketplace, e.g. $200/hr.



                                      When he gets a call he needs to document who he's talking to, what the problem is, collect the question(s) from the person if brief, otherwise ask them to send an email elucidating all their questions. Don't answer anything and be quick, especially if it's on your company's time.



                                      After he has gone home from the office and is on his own time, he should take on the questions seriously. Perhaps follow up with the person. Then he should "formally write-up" the answer in a sensible, presentable format, and email it to the person.



                                      Then, he looks at the total time spent on it, round up to the nearest increment of time that is not unreasonable, and send a bill to the company for consulting services net 10.*



                                      It is important this not consist of any "new work" but be confined to wrap-up and exit documentation, akin to an exit interview. He cannot be working for two companies in the same field at once. In fact if this goes very far at all, he needs to have a conversation with your current company's HR to resolve any conflict of interest, which there shouldn't be because it should be confined to discussion of work he already did.



                                      If it just gets him paid, awesome.



                                      It may also cause a little excitement, in which case, the next time they call, he says




                                      "Well, I'd love to help you, but the company seems reluctant to pay. Could you provide a PO number ** for this consultation?"




                                      Once he's past the 10 days (or whatever) of the first bill, when they call he immediately steers the conversation to the fact that their payment is late, and he needs to absolutely refuse to give any further help until it's paid. With luck, they'll be so in need of his assistance that they'll expedite payment, in which case, he has a nice little side business.





                                      * "Net 10 days" is a billing term, it means the bill should be paid pretty much as fast as checks can fly in the mail. It is customary in business. Don't use a longer billing term, or they could troll you for that long and collect free support in the meantime, just by being ambiguous about paying you. Other terms are "net 30" or "cash", the latter means you do not trust them to pay, and need to hear some credit card numbers right now.



                                      ** "PO number" expands to "Purchase Order number" which means you are asking them to create a Purchase Order for the goods or services. If he gives you a PO #, that's a verbal commitment that the company desires to buy this and will pay. Presumably he will be unable to do this.






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                                        Your coworker needs to bill the company for his continued assistance.



                                        He needs to select a consultancy rate which is not inappropriate for the skills and marketplace, e.g. $200/hr.



                                        When he gets a call he needs to document who he's talking to, what the problem is, collect the question(s) from the person if brief, otherwise ask them to send an email elucidating all their questions. Don't answer anything and be quick, especially if it's on your company's time.



                                        After he has gone home from the office and is on his own time, he should take on the questions seriously. Perhaps follow up with the person. Then he should "formally write-up" the answer in a sensible, presentable format, and email it to the person.



                                        Then, he looks at the total time spent on it, round up to the nearest increment of time that is not unreasonable, and send a bill to the company for consulting services net 10.*



                                        It is important this not consist of any "new work" but be confined to wrap-up and exit documentation, akin to an exit interview. He cannot be working for two companies in the same field at once. In fact if this goes very far at all, he needs to have a conversation with your current company's HR to resolve any conflict of interest, which there shouldn't be because it should be confined to discussion of work he already did.



                                        If it just gets him paid, awesome.



                                        It may also cause a little excitement, in which case, the next time they call, he says




                                        "Well, I'd love to help you, but the company seems reluctant to pay. Could you provide a PO number ** for this consultation?"




                                        Once he's past the 10 days (or whatever) of the first bill, when they call he immediately steers the conversation to the fact that their payment is late, and he needs to absolutely refuse to give any further help until it's paid. With luck, they'll be so in need of his assistance that they'll expedite payment, in which case, he has a nice little side business.





                                        * "Net 10 days" is a billing term, it means the bill should be paid pretty much as fast as checks can fly in the mail. It is customary in business. Don't use a longer billing term, or they could troll you for that long and collect free support in the meantime, just by being ambiguous about paying you. Other terms are "net 30" or "cash", the latter means you do not trust them to pay, and need to hear some credit card numbers right now.



                                        ** "PO number" expands to "Purchase Order number" which means you are asking them to create a Purchase Order for the goods or services. If he gives you a PO #, that's a verbal commitment that the company desires to buy this and will pay. Presumably he will be unable to do this.






                                        share|improve this answer













                                        Your coworker needs to bill the company for his continued assistance.



                                        He needs to select a consultancy rate which is not inappropriate for the skills and marketplace, e.g. $200/hr.



                                        When he gets a call he needs to document who he's talking to, what the problem is, collect the question(s) from the person if brief, otherwise ask them to send an email elucidating all their questions. Don't answer anything and be quick, especially if it's on your company's time.



                                        After he has gone home from the office and is on his own time, he should take on the questions seriously. Perhaps follow up with the person. Then he should "formally write-up" the answer in a sensible, presentable format, and email it to the person.



                                        Then, he looks at the total time spent on it, round up to the nearest increment of time that is not unreasonable, and send a bill to the company for consulting services net 10.*



                                        It is important this not consist of any "new work" but be confined to wrap-up and exit documentation, akin to an exit interview. He cannot be working for two companies in the same field at once. In fact if this goes very far at all, he needs to have a conversation with your current company's HR to resolve any conflict of interest, which there shouldn't be because it should be confined to discussion of work he already did.



                                        If it just gets him paid, awesome.



                                        It may also cause a little excitement, in which case, the next time they call, he says




                                        "Well, I'd love to help you, but the company seems reluctant to pay. Could you provide a PO number ** for this consultation?"




                                        Once he's past the 10 days (or whatever) of the first bill, when they call he immediately steers the conversation to the fact that their payment is late, and he needs to absolutely refuse to give any further help until it's paid. With luck, they'll be so in need of his assistance that they'll expedite payment, in which case, he has a nice little side business.





                                        * "Net 10 days" is a billing term, it means the bill should be paid pretty much as fast as checks can fly in the mail. It is customary in business. Don't use a longer billing term, or they could troll you for that long and collect free support in the meantime, just by being ambiguous about paying you. Other terms are "net 30" or "cash", the latter means you do not trust them to pay, and need to hear some credit card numbers right now.



                                        ** "PO number" expands to "Purchase Order number" which means you are asking them to create a Purchase Order for the goods or services. If he gives you a PO #, that's a verbal commitment that the company desires to buy this and will pay. Presumably he will be unable to do this.







                                        share|improve this answer












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                                            The other answers talk about different ways to essentially either tell them "no" or to threaten them directly either with billing or no-contact orders.



                                            I think the simplest way is to just stop answering their questions. By answering their questions in the past you've essentially implied to them that its okay to bug you with questions because you've been helping them out for all this time.



                                            Stop responding to their calls/texts/messages/whatever. If you ignore them and the volume of contact increases or does not go away- then it turns into harassment and you will have to consider either blocking them or taking further actions to prevent them from bothering you during work.






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                                              The other answers talk about different ways to essentially either tell them "no" or to threaten them directly either with billing or no-contact orders.



                                              I think the simplest way is to just stop answering their questions. By answering their questions in the past you've essentially implied to them that its okay to bug you with questions because you've been helping them out for all this time.



                                              Stop responding to their calls/texts/messages/whatever. If you ignore them and the volume of contact increases or does not go away- then it turns into harassment and you will have to consider either blocking them or taking further actions to prevent them from bothering you during work.






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                                                The other answers talk about different ways to essentially either tell them "no" or to threaten them directly either with billing or no-contact orders.



                                                I think the simplest way is to just stop answering their questions. By answering their questions in the past you've essentially implied to them that its okay to bug you with questions because you've been helping them out for all this time.



                                                Stop responding to their calls/texts/messages/whatever. If you ignore them and the volume of contact increases or does not go away- then it turns into harassment and you will have to consider either blocking them or taking further actions to prevent them from bothering you during work.






                                                share|improve this answer













                                                The other answers talk about different ways to essentially either tell them "no" or to threaten them directly either with billing or no-contact orders.



                                                I think the simplest way is to just stop answering their questions. By answering their questions in the past you've essentially implied to them that its okay to bug you with questions because you've been helping them out for all this time.



                                                Stop responding to their calls/texts/messages/whatever. If you ignore them and the volume of contact increases or does not go away- then it turns into harassment and you will have to consider either blocking them or taking further actions to prevent them from bothering you during work.







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                                                    Literally stop answering the phone to them.



                                                    That's it.






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                                                      This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

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                                                    Literally stop answering the phone to them.



                                                    That's it.






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                                                      This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

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                                                    Literally stop answering the phone to them.



                                                    That's it.






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                                                    Literally stop answering the phone to them.



                                                    That's it.







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                                                    Lightness Races in OrbitLightness Races in Orbit

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                                                      This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

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                                                      This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

                                                      – DarkCygnus
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                                                    This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

                                                    – DarkCygnus
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                                                    This is a valid approach, although it is already suggested in other answers... mind enhancing yours?

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