Does the article change the meaning of the expression “Student with [a?] physics background”?












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I have heard natives say both




student with physics background




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student with a physics background




so I assume both expressions are grammatical.



Is there any difference in meaning?










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    I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

    – FumbleFingers
    11 hours ago








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    I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

    – Jason Bassford
    11 hours ago








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    Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

    – J.R.
    8 hours ago
















1















I have heard natives say both




student with physics background




and




student with a physics background




so I assume both expressions are grammatical.



Is there any difference in meaning?










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    I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

    – FumbleFingers
    11 hours ago








  • 3





    I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

    – Jason Bassford
    11 hours ago








  • 2





    Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

    – J.R.
    8 hours ago














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I have heard natives say both




student with physics background




and




student with a physics background




so I assume both expressions are grammatical.



Is there any difference in meaning?










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I have heard natives say both




student with physics background




and




student with a physics background




so I assume both expressions are grammatical.



Is there any difference in meaning?







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  • 4





    I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

    – FumbleFingers
    11 hours ago








  • 3





    I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

    – Jason Bassford
    11 hours ago








  • 2





    Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

    – J.R.
    8 hours ago














  • 4





    I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

    – FumbleFingers
    11 hours ago








  • 3





    I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

    – Jason Bassford
    11 hours ago








  • 2





    Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

    – J.R.
    8 hours ago








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I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

– FumbleFingers
11 hours ago







I don't like the article-less version very much. I suggest you avoid it. To me, the only "meaning" it conveys is that the speaker/writer is sloppy and/or not well-educated (or simply "not a native speaker").

– FumbleFingers
11 hours ago






3




3





I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

– Jason Bassford
11 hours ago







I agree that the article should always be used. I believe it's ungrammatical to leave it out (aside from in headlinese)—but I'm having difficulty forming a cogent argument.

– Jason Bassford
11 hours ago






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Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

– J.R.
8 hours ago





Are you sure you haven’t heard /seen “students with physics backgrounds”? The article gets omitted when the phrase is in the plural.

– J.R.
8 hours ago










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'Background' is a singular countable noun, so would usually need a word like 'a', 'the', 'my' or 'your'. So standard English definitely needs 'a student with a physics background'.



But there are some special contexts where articles and similar can be omitted, for example newspaper headlines and headings in articles etc (which are written sources). Imagine a university faculty committee decides to create a new part-time job for a laboratory assistant. They say 'We need a student with a physics background'. Then they write the advertisement, which starts 'New job available - laboratory assistant. Suit student with physics background'. You see the ad and you think 'I am a student with a physics background. I'll apply.'



Where have you heard native speakers saying 'student with physics background'?






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  • How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

    – Leo
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'Background' is a singular countable noun, so would usually need a word like 'a', 'the', 'my' or 'your'. So standard English definitely needs 'a student with a physics background'.



But there are some special contexts where articles and similar can be omitted, for example newspaper headlines and headings in articles etc (which are written sources). Imagine a university faculty committee decides to create a new part-time job for a laboratory assistant. They say 'We need a student with a physics background'. Then they write the advertisement, which starts 'New job available - laboratory assistant. Suit student with physics background'. You see the ad and you think 'I am a student with a physics background. I'll apply.'



Where have you heard native speakers saying 'student with physics background'?






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  • How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

    – Leo
    9 hours ago


















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'Background' is a singular countable noun, so would usually need a word like 'a', 'the', 'my' or 'your'. So standard English definitely needs 'a student with a physics background'.



But there are some special contexts where articles and similar can be omitted, for example newspaper headlines and headings in articles etc (which are written sources). Imagine a university faculty committee decides to create a new part-time job for a laboratory assistant. They say 'We need a student with a physics background'. Then they write the advertisement, which starts 'New job available - laboratory assistant. Suit student with physics background'. You see the ad and you think 'I am a student with a physics background. I'll apply.'



Where have you heard native speakers saying 'student with physics background'?






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  • How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

    – Leo
    9 hours ago
















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'Background' is a singular countable noun, so would usually need a word like 'a', 'the', 'my' or 'your'. So standard English definitely needs 'a student with a physics background'.



But there are some special contexts where articles and similar can be omitted, for example newspaper headlines and headings in articles etc (which are written sources). Imagine a university faculty committee decides to create a new part-time job for a laboratory assistant. They say 'We need a student with a physics background'. Then they write the advertisement, which starts 'New job available - laboratory assistant. Suit student with physics background'. You see the ad and you think 'I am a student with a physics background. I'll apply.'



Where have you heard native speakers saying 'student with physics background'?






share|improve this answer













'Background' is a singular countable noun, so would usually need a word like 'a', 'the', 'my' or 'your'. So standard English definitely needs 'a student with a physics background'.



But there are some special contexts where articles and similar can be omitted, for example newspaper headlines and headings in articles etc (which are written sources). Imagine a university faculty committee decides to create a new part-time job for a laboratory assistant. They say 'We need a student with a physics background'. Then they write the advertisement, which starts 'New job available - laboratory assistant. Suit student with physics background'. You see the ad and you think 'I am a student with a physics background. I'll apply.'



Where have you heard native speakers saying 'student with physics background'?







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  • How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

    – Leo
    9 hours ago





















  • How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

    – Leo
    9 hours ago



















How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

– Leo
9 hours ago







How after reading your answer, it probably was not "I've heard" but rather "I've read". So what if we use it in writing as a subtitle for a resume: "John Doe, Engineer with [a?] physics background". Do we need the article there?

– Leo
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