Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
I guess they only had to follow Grihastha ashrama when they attained the appropriate age, learning and renunciation being denied to them.
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I guess they only had to follow Grihastha ashrama when they attained the appropriate age, learning and renunciation being denied to them.
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learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
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@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
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I guess they only had to follow Grihastha ashrama when they attained the appropriate age, learning and renunciation being denied to them.
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I guess they only had to follow Grihastha ashrama when they attained the appropriate age, learning and renunciation being denied to them.
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learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
– ram
29 mins ago
@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
– SudarshanaSuri
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learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
– ram
29 mins ago
@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
– SudarshanaSuri
5 mins ago
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learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
– ram
29 mins ago
learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
– ram
29 mins ago
@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
– SudarshanaSuri
5 mins ago
@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
– SudarshanaSuri
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Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
Yes, Shudras are considered lifelong Grihasthas.
Shudras only belong in one Ashrama as per Gautama Smriti:
- Live with his wife (only)
'Another commentator explains the Sûtra to mean that he shall live with his wife only, and never enter another order (i.e. never become a student, hermit, or ascetic).'--Haradatta.
Some more verses:
Yogi-Yājñavalkya (Parāśaramādhava, p. 537).—‘There are four stages
prescribed by the Veda for the Brāhmaṇa, three for the Kṣatriya, two
for the Vaiśya and one for the Śūdra.’
Vāmanapurāṇa (Do.).—‘Four stages have been spoken of for the Brāhmaṇa;
three only, i.e., those of the Householder, the Student, the Hermit,
for the Kṣatriva; only two—Householdership and Hermitship—for the
Vaiśya; only one, that of Householdership, is proper for the Śūdra.’
Smṛtyantara (Aparārka, p. 966; Parāśaramādhava, p. 538).—‘Having paid
off the three debts, being freed from all notions of I and mine, the
Brāhmaṇa, the Kṣatriya and the Vaiśya, [and not the Shudra] may go forth from the house.’
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Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
Yes, Shudras are considered lifelong Grihasthas.
Shudras only belong in one Ashrama as per Gautama Smriti:
- Live with his wife (only)
'Another commentator explains the Sûtra to mean that he shall live with his wife only, and never enter another order (i.e. never become a student, hermit, or ascetic).'--Haradatta.
Some more verses:
Yogi-Yājñavalkya (Parāśaramādhava, p. 537).—‘There are four stages
prescribed by the Veda for the Brāhmaṇa, three for the Kṣatriya, two
for the Vaiśya and one for the Śūdra.’
Vāmanapurāṇa (Do.).—‘Four stages have been spoken of for the Brāhmaṇa;
three only, i.e., those of the Householder, the Student, the Hermit,
for the Kṣatriva; only two—Householdership and Hermitship—for the
Vaiśya; only one, that of Householdership, is proper for the Śūdra.’
Smṛtyantara (Aparārka, p. 966; Parāśaramādhava, p. 538).—‘Having paid
off the three debts, being freed from all notions of I and mine, the
Brāhmaṇa, the Kṣatriya and the Vaiśya, [and not the Shudra] may go forth from the house.’
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Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
Yes, Shudras are considered lifelong Grihasthas.
Shudras only belong in one Ashrama as per Gautama Smriti:
- Live with his wife (only)
'Another commentator explains the Sûtra to mean that he shall live with his wife only, and never enter another order (i.e. never become a student, hermit, or ascetic).'--Haradatta.
Some more verses:
Yogi-Yājñavalkya (Parāśaramādhava, p. 537).—‘There are four stages
prescribed by the Veda for the Brāhmaṇa, three for the Kṣatriya, two
for the Vaiśya and one for the Śūdra.’
Vāmanapurāṇa (Do.).—‘Four stages have been spoken of for the Brāhmaṇa;
three only, i.e., those of the Householder, the Student, the Hermit,
for the Kṣatriva; only two—Householdership and Hermitship—for the
Vaiśya; only one, that of Householdership, is proper for the Śūdra.’
Smṛtyantara (Aparārka, p. 966; Parāśaramādhava, p. 538).—‘Having paid
off the three debts, being freed from all notions of I and mine, the
Brāhmaṇa, the Kṣatriya and the Vaiśya, [and not the Shudra] may go forth from the house.’
answered 3 hours ago
IkshvakuIkshvaku
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Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
Yes, Shudras are considered lifelong Grihasthas.
Shudras only belong in one Ashrama as per Gautama Smriti:
- Live with his wife (only)
'Another commentator explains the Sûtra to mean that he shall live with his wife only, and never enter another order (i.e. never become a student, hermit, or ascetic).'--Haradatta.
Some more verses:
Yogi-Yājñavalkya (Parāśaramādhava, p. 537).—‘There are four stages
prescribed by the Veda for the Brāhmaṇa, three for the Kṣatriya, two
for the Vaiśya and one for the Śūdra.’
Vāmanapurāṇa (Do.).—‘Four stages have been spoken of for the Brāhmaṇa;
three only, i.e., those of the Householder, the Student, the Hermit,
for the Kṣatriva; only two—Householdership and Hermitship—for the
Vaiśya; only one, that of Householdership, is proper for the Śūdra.’
Smṛtyantara (Aparārka, p. 966; Parāśaramādhava, p. 538).—‘Having paid
off the three debts, being freed from all notions of I and mine, the
Brāhmaṇa, the Kṣatriya and the Vaiśya, [and not the Shudra] may go forth from the house.’
answered 3 hours ago
IkshvakuIkshvaku
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Did Sudras have Varnashrama Dharma as opposed to Varna Dharma only?
Yes, Shudras are considered lifelong Grihasthas.
Shudras only belong in one Ashrama as per Gautama Smriti:
- Live with his wife (only)
'Another commentator explains the Sûtra to mean that he shall live with his wife only, and never enter another order (i.e. never become a student, hermit, or ascetic).'--Haradatta.
Some more verses:
Yogi-Yājñavalkya (Parāśaramādhava, p. 537).—‘There are four stages
prescribed by the Veda for the Brāhmaṇa, three for the Kṣatriya, two
for the Vaiśya and one for the Śūdra.’
Vāmanapurāṇa (Do.).—‘Four stages have been spoken of for the Brāhmaṇa;
three only, i.e., those of the Householder, the Student, the Hermit,
for the Kṣatriva; only two—Householdership and Hermitship—for the
Vaiśya; only one, that of Householdership, is proper for the Śūdra.’
Smṛtyantara (Aparārka, p. 966; Parāśaramādhava, p. 538).—‘Having paid
off the three debts, being freed from all notions of I and mine, the
Brāhmaṇa, the Kṣatriya and the Vaiśya, [and not the Shudra] may go forth from the house.’
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learning is not denied to them. they were taught trades/skills - what's maybe known as handyman or labor work today. they were not oppressed into slavery like most 'modern' thinkers love to believe. only veda mantras were denied, that too because the austerity required to wield the power of the mantras would not suit their day to day work/life/interests.
– ram
29 mins ago
@ram exactly! It is irony that to answer this question via one's own experience, that one can need only join corporate world and easily understand!
– SudarshanaSuri
5 mins ago