How does Loki do this?
In the post credit scene of Thor (2011), we are shown Loki controlling Selvig as he speaks with Nick Fury about the Tesseract.
In Avengers (2012), Loki makes it to Earth for the first time using the wormhole created by the Tesseract. This is after he's made a deal with the Chitauri.
How is Loki doing that mind control thing on Selvig if he never was on Earth at that time?
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In the post credit scene of Thor (2011), we are shown Loki controlling Selvig as he speaks with Nick Fury about the Tesseract.
In Avengers (2012), Loki makes it to Earth for the first time using the wormhole created by the Tesseract. This is after he's made a deal with the Chitauri.
How is Loki doing that mind control thing on Selvig if he never was on Earth at that time?
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Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
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@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago
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In the post credit scene of Thor (2011), we are shown Loki controlling Selvig as he speaks with Nick Fury about the Tesseract.
In Avengers (2012), Loki makes it to Earth for the first time using the wormhole created by the Tesseract. This is after he's made a deal with the Chitauri.
How is Loki doing that mind control thing on Selvig if he never was on Earth at that time?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers thor
asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
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In the post credit scene of Thor (2011), we are shown Loki controlling Selvig as he speaks with Nick Fury about the Tesseract.
In Avengers (2012), Loki makes it to Earth for the first time using the wormhole created by the Tesseract. This is after he's made a deal with the Chitauri.
How is Loki doing that mind control thing on Selvig if he never was on Earth at that time?
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers thor
plot-explanation marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers thor
asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
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asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
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asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
6812828
asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
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asked 11 hours ago
MovieMeMovieMe
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Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
5
@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago
add a comment |
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Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
5
@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago
1
1
Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
5
5
@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago
@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago
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This isn't the first time Loki has been to Earth - he shows up to talk to Thor earlier in the film while Thor is incarcerated by SHIELD after trying to retrieve Mjolnir. He's definitely present as he attempts to pick up the hammer, so it's not just an illusion.
As Loki was acting as the King of Asgard at that time, he used the Bifrost to make this trip; however earlier in this film, Loki opens a path to Jotunheim without using the Bifrost to allow the Frost Giants to get into Asgard unseen by Heimdall. In Thor 2, he makes use of a wormhole to transport Thor and Jane from Asgard to Earth and mentions that there are many ways to travel between realms aside from the Bifrost.
We do not know where Loki lands after he lets go of Thor's hand at the end of the film - however, if he can find a way from there to Asgard, he clearly has a route to Earth available.
Worth considering is that he potentially found his way to Thanos who tasked him with retrieving the Tesseract and told him it was on Earth. Thanos could no doubt have provided a method of transport to Loki, although he may not even have needed it. Using the Tesseract to appear on Earth in the Avengers is a bit more theatrical; something Loki is well known for.
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DaveDave
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Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
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1 Answer
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This isn't the first time Loki has been to Earth - he shows up to talk to Thor earlier in the film while Thor is incarcerated by SHIELD after trying to retrieve Mjolnir. He's definitely present as he attempts to pick up the hammer, so it's not just an illusion.
As Loki was acting as the King of Asgard at that time, he used the Bifrost to make this trip; however earlier in this film, Loki opens a path to Jotunheim without using the Bifrost to allow the Frost Giants to get into Asgard unseen by Heimdall. In Thor 2, he makes use of a wormhole to transport Thor and Jane from Asgard to Earth and mentions that there are many ways to travel between realms aside from the Bifrost.
We do not know where Loki lands after he lets go of Thor's hand at the end of the film - however, if he can find a way from there to Asgard, he clearly has a route to Earth available.
Worth considering is that he potentially found his way to Thanos who tasked him with retrieving the Tesseract and told him it was on Earth. Thanos could no doubt have provided a method of transport to Loki, although he may not even have needed it. Using the Tesseract to appear on Earth in the Avengers is a bit more theatrical; something Loki is well known for.
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
add a comment |
This isn't the first time Loki has been to Earth - he shows up to talk to Thor earlier in the film while Thor is incarcerated by SHIELD after trying to retrieve Mjolnir. He's definitely present as he attempts to pick up the hammer, so it's not just an illusion.
As Loki was acting as the King of Asgard at that time, he used the Bifrost to make this trip; however earlier in this film, Loki opens a path to Jotunheim without using the Bifrost to allow the Frost Giants to get into Asgard unseen by Heimdall. In Thor 2, he makes use of a wormhole to transport Thor and Jane from Asgard to Earth and mentions that there are many ways to travel between realms aside from the Bifrost.
We do not know where Loki lands after he lets go of Thor's hand at the end of the film - however, if he can find a way from there to Asgard, he clearly has a route to Earth available.
Worth considering is that he potentially found his way to Thanos who tasked him with retrieving the Tesseract and told him it was on Earth. Thanos could no doubt have provided a method of transport to Loki, although he may not even have needed it. Using the Tesseract to appear on Earth in the Avengers is a bit more theatrical; something Loki is well known for.
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
add a comment |
This isn't the first time Loki has been to Earth - he shows up to talk to Thor earlier in the film while Thor is incarcerated by SHIELD after trying to retrieve Mjolnir. He's definitely present as he attempts to pick up the hammer, so it's not just an illusion.
As Loki was acting as the King of Asgard at that time, he used the Bifrost to make this trip; however earlier in this film, Loki opens a path to Jotunheim without using the Bifrost to allow the Frost Giants to get into Asgard unseen by Heimdall. In Thor 2, he makes use of a wormhole to transport Thor and Jane from Asgard to Earth and mentions that there are many ways to travel between realms aside from the Bifrost.
We do not know where Loki lands after he lets go of Thor's hand at the end of the film - however, if he can find a way from there to Asgard, he clearly has a route to Earth available.
Worth considering is that he potentially found his way to Thanos who tasked him with retrieving the Tesseract and told him it was on Earth. Thanos could no doubt have provided a method of transport to Loki, although he may not even have needed it. Using the Tesseract to appear on Earth in the Avengers is a bit more theatrical; something Loki is well known for.
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
This isn't the first time Loki has been to Earth - he shows up to talk to Thor earlier in the film while Thor is incarcerated by SHIELD after trying to retrieve Mjolnir. He's definitely present as he attempts to pick up the hammer, so it's not just an illusion.
As Loki was acting as the King of Asgard at that time, he used the Bifrost to make this trip; however earlier in this film, Loki opens a path to Jotunheim without using the Bifrost to allow the Frost Giants to get into Asgard unseen by Heimdall. In Thor 2, he makes use of a wormhole to transport Thor and Jane from Asgard to Earth and mentions that there are many ways to travel between realms aside from the Bifrost.
We do not know where Loki lands after he lets go of Thor's hand at the end of the film - however, if he can find a way from there to Asgard, he clearly has a route to Earth available.
Worth considering is that he potentially found his way to Thanos who tasked him with retrieving the Tesseract and told him it was on Earth. Thanos could no doubt have provided a method of transport to Loki, although he may not even have needed it. Using the Tesseract to appear on Earth in the Avengers is a bit more theatrical; something Loki is well known for.
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
answered 10 hours ago
DaveDave
9,09713457
9,09713457
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
Awesome, that makes sense. So he infiltrated SHIELD before the end of the first Thor movie.
– MovieMe
9 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
He may not even have traveled there; maybe he or Thanos found a limited way to use the mind stone's power at a distance.
– Dan Staley
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Is there a reason to think that the events depicted in the post-credits scene of Thor happen before the events depicted in the opening scenes of Avengers?
– Anthony Grist
11 hours ago
5
@AnthonyGrist yes - the end credit scene in Thor has Nick Fury bringing Dr Selvig onto the project to study the Tesseract, while the Avengers opening scenes show Dr Selvig in charge of the project and already working with it.
– Dave
11 hours ago